From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxDDrqXkBBoE0ZVKcQ@googlegroups.com Thu Sep 09 14:53:40 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Otp3a-00025z-62; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:53:40 -0700 Received: by qwi4 with SMTP id 4sf1053483qwi.16 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:53:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=isssTKAvCidXi+nlrJksjAX0igFjUzXqqCIX7C9u2ko=; b=5jXcX2WmtwLz9vAaULiZX20x8S6v9R0Q9vEM6Ov7GHISC+/iQRl+L5VzyXKpIA/PIw wmVuklxxBqO+UL/uia92c+buNEmKuJVlQRju1eHbwEd4ybOY0TccRO8HeoJky41dCLGU El04+oMRuf7QRSrvjXTQb1O8Z0IZ2HDqElR8Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=adIEcfq5y1YlZceeAk4tTPCgjqVhg2Yg5DNUCkEJ+YG1I9T3/o0OEUuinYO8/e8quy /9r/YBNM25/t3v1ZxUO13PFVR4QfTDIFlcjlciC/jyOWEvQLX5/T1wYpKM5BLbIhfDy6 /GDeu6PqBLq35dLECFUJQsLTMBmczd5F8k9qE= Received: by 10.229.43.95 with SMTP id v31mr458506qce.36.1284069187766; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:53:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.207.84 with SMTP id fx20ls2774350qcb.0.p; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.191.137 with SMTP id dm9mr733091qcb.17.1284069186530; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.191.137 with SMTP id dm9mr733090qcb.17.1284069186477; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f45.google.com (mail-qw0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x2si927164qcq.3.2010.09.09.14.53.05; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.45; Received: by qwi4 with SMTP id 4so57203qwi.32 for ; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:53:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.184.130 with SMTP id ck2mr462591qcb.122.1284069185179; Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.1.69 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Sep 2010 14:53:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 23:53:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: lo jbove'a cukta From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016362848c2a65114048fdaa7d1 --0016362848c2a65114048fdaa7d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lindar, I've seen the recently posts on cu/ku and I don't think I really understand the point. For now I've chosen to eliminate all ku and leave the cu as it's one of the first thing that a new learner of lojban will learn from L4B or CLL. If we had a lojban grammar for lojban children (say age 6-9) one could better understand which one to use. I see your point on using the simplest form of lujvo to ease the reading. .i lisri fi la'o gy. Noni .gy. gi'e pixra fi la'o gy. Angie .gy. joi > la'o gy. Upesh .gy. > > I think we need some standard way of dealing with books titles. For example, having "lalu .... li'u" to indcated "what is named '...' " (but "la lu ..." is not grammatical as far as I understood ). than one could continue with " lisri fi ..." to indicate the author and so on ... .i le patfu be mi'a ku tervecnu lo seljadni > le'otci seva'u la .tcintus. > "seva'u" is what I really wanted! Thanks: I > .i .ui le mamta ku go'i lo carmi blanu mapku > .i le verba tunba be mi ku terdunda lo demsakta > > In the original, the mother gives the cap to the boy who tells the story but it's left unspecified who gave the candy to the little girl. zoi gy. Noni .gy. ciska cmene lo terlisri noi xabju la .bangalor. .i > ri ctuca > .i la'o gy. Angie .gy. skami terxra gi'e nelci lo nu zbasu lo staku > .i la'o gy. Upesh .gy. noi selxraci'a ku'o jajgau pixra cukta gi'e > jundi lo cizra skina > .i lo go'e .e lo go'i ku pagbu la'o gy. The Other Design Studio .gy. > > I'll leave that page in English for now, I feel I should translate the copyright page too. But maybe when I'll know more lojban than I do for now :) Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016362848c2a65114048fdaa7d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lindar,
=A0 I've seen the recently posts on cu/ku and I don't t= hink I really understand the point. For now I've chosen to eliminate al= l ku and leave the cu as it's one of the first thing that a new learner= of lojban will learn from L4B or CLL.

=A0If we had a lojban grammar for lojban children (say age 6-9) one cou= ld better understand which one to use.

=A0I see your point on using = the simplest form of lujvo to ease the reading.


.i lisri fi la'o gy. Noni .gy. gi'e pixra fi la'o gy. Angie .gy= . joi
la'o gy. Upesh .gy.

I think we need some standard way of dealing with boo= ks titles. For example, having "lalu .... li'u" to indcated &= quot;what is named '...' " (but "la lu ..." is not g= rammatical as far as I understood ).=A0 than one could continue with "= lisri fi ..." to indicate the author and so on ...
=A0

.i le patfu be mi'a ku tervecnu lo seljadni
=A0 =A0 =A0 le'otci seva'u la .tcintus.=A0
&q= uot;seva'u" is what I really wanted! Thanks: I
=A0
.i .ui le mamta ku go'i lo carmi blanu mapku
.i le verba tunba be mi ku terdunda lo demsakta

In the original, the mother gives the cap to the boy = who tells the story but it's left unspecified who gave the candy to the= little girl.
=A0

zoi gy. Noni .gy. ciska cmene lo terlisri noi xabju la .bangalor. .i
ri ctuca
.i la'o gy. Angie .gy. skami terxra gi'e nelci lo nu zbasu lo staku=
.i la'o gy. Upesh .gy. noi selxraci'a ku'o jajgau pixra cukta g= i'e
jundi lo cizra skina
.i lo go'e .e lo go'i ku pagbu la'o gy. The Other Design Studio= .gy.

=A0
I'll leave that page in English fo= r now, I feel I should translate the copyright page too. But maybe when I&#= 39;ll know more lojban than I do for now :)

Thanks

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