From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDXga7lBBoEkEkemQ@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 05 12:47:55 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3DUL-0001se-Ue; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:47:55 -0700 Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9sf4971547gxk.16 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:47:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=H3tl/pbzGo6/EOpvjOEj95i6FmHOW9yTl39qso1E4BU=; b=bk8qGd6pW8EBVwswOz4wB6smkZDfSXXztp9+CDb69RtC7gncYzahkjlm4BHXkZo1DC aHAMeILFQoRk9WLXVo5GXb4tL/WvjW8YrcwaonvSWZO/bhqwjy6/uJ8Li3rKUQcYIB9Q rycycIH6bsPERyR9lzpS3IW2miG+Z2t7FLWR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=frev4fFSZuRIe4ox2BNF99Y9wwJ1Xrskfzq1+5S6m8wjSsyjYgmwbezpzwdUWlW45p iy5dqdwKnLohpdVXvPnjQbbQpXcaUsy4zHUO5u771qJcsOZ6BvInj38WjfTOeIWFUotV ppBgefD6eVui/jzvSqQBq87wSR+EuWeht6VI8= Received: by 10.91.10.24 with SMTP id n24mr810087agi.30.1286308055069; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:47:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls3338389ibg.3.p; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.11 with SMTP id ce11mr3014086ibb.5.1286306948932; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.11 with SMTP id ce11mr3012204ibb.5.1286306276536; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com (mail-iw0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id db12si4018651ibb.5.2010.10.05.12.17.55; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.169; Received: by mail-iw0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 41so1117216iwn.14 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.157.212 with SMTP id c20mr12561187ibx.186.1286306274903; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 12:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Oct 2010 12:17:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010011823.25227.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4CA76670.50601@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:17:54 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0050450168c89685f80491e38493 --0050450168c89685f80491e38493 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable because some times tanru get used often enough that people get tired of saying {gerku zdani} and decide that it is a concept unto it's own and deserves it's own word, if for no other reason than brevity. and my tanru was { nu me li no ku bangu ponse valsi finti } =3Dp Here's one that occurred to me. {mumdeita'i}. Let {lo ka ko'a mumdeita'i} mean that {ko'a} is tired in that way that one often feels tired on a frida= y after work. Or for you xorxes: mumdeita'i =3D ko'a menli ja xadni tatpi t= ai lo nu ko'a mu'o gunka ca lo mumdei bu'u lo briju .a lo gunka selzvati 2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Luke Bergen wrote= : > > Yeah, basically that's what I did. Took a long-arse tanru and smooshed > it > > into a lujvo. > > What was your long-arse tanru? How did "no" fit in there? > > > My question is, xorxes, if you saw {mi nelci lo nu nunynonbaupo'evlafi'= i} > > would you get what I was saying? > > I don't know, try me next time we are talking in Lojban. I would > certainly not get it at first sight, and probably not without some > relevant context. > > > Tanru > > are useful, they don't all have to be broken down into explicit bridi. > > Why not just stick with tanru then? > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0050450168c89685f80491e38493 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable because some times tanru get used often enough that people get tired of say= ing {gerku zdani} and decide that it is a concept unto it's own and des= erves it's own word, if for no other reason than brevity.

and my tanru was { nu me li no ku bangu ponse valsi finti } =3Dp
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Here's one that occurred to me. =A0{mumdeita'i}= . =A0Let {lo ka ko'a mumdeita'i} mean that {ko'a} is tired in t= hat way that one often feels tired on a friday after work. =A0Or for you xo= rxes: =A0mumdeita'i =3D ko'a menli ja xadni tatpi tai lo nu ko'= a mu'o gunka ca lo mumdei bu'u lo briju .a lo gunka selzvati

2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, basically that's what I did. =A0Took a long-arse tanru and s= mooshed it
> into a lujvo.

What was your long-arse tanru? How did "no" fit in there?

> My question is, xorxes, if you saw {mi nelci lo nu=A0nunynonbaupo'= evlafi'i}
> would you get what I was saying?

I don't know, try me next time we are talking in Lojban. I would<= br> certainly not get it at first sight, and probably not without some
relevant context.

>=A0=A0Tanru
> are useful, they don't all have to be broken down into explicit br= idi.

Why not just stick with tanru then?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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