From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDoiq7lBBoEkhZnlg@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 05 13:07:23 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3DnE-0002to-DP; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:07:23 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf1780048wwe.16 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:07:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eFL9OgSCHeV9S8rhnKIpqAev0tU4emhU8xdeftG9Eyc=; b=nnrAoTCfNS8zIMAUfLWtFwq7khqw+j6I8+sp0VKnQlUOMqvJmHh1n0zz0/Qpy0rG85 eFp5zgxrW/TfnuKz5q8Y6vgst5zWKLlVmsc8I2ObFRyB/wQVizXwEE+pnwSHGHFL7WZh pvoVALQmniTWWLtaSc5sP81tdEXfzS+8WPY0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Fu1hQ/GMmFuKHQ8teAcM6zrhL+4KprM1k1bMfRcyvzhP+67XChiIR4250fIvt58aQ0 +Sdh2yAu8DOQhNMECkIWxHNqyuPAu6rFHS4ciYmO+GAWFIhngzW/mqKu2MALQdvz+U+4 uriiTLmhgIv7trhi1D6e7BXpR6tI4Qq/4ozhA= Received: by 10.216.144.196 with SMTP id n46mr2158488wej.21.1286309224825; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:07:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.139.159 with SMTP id e31ls2190068wbu.0.p; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.93.77 with SMTP id k55mr84278wef.7.1286309223688; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.93.77 with SMTP id k55mr84277wef.7.1286309223675; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f179.google.com (mail-wy0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o46si1971297weq.10.2010.10.05.13.07.02; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.179; Received: by wyb42 with SMTP id 42so6455802wyb.38 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:07:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.147.204 with SMTP id m12mr9878748wbv.131.1286309222292; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Oct 2010 13:07:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010011823.25227.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4CA76670.50601@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 17:07:02 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > because some times tanru get used often enough that people get tired of > saying {gerku zdani} and decide that it is a concept unto it's own and > deserves it's own word, if for no other reason than brevity. I don't actually recall any examples of that ever happening yet. Most lujvo I see people using seem to have a different source. Do you have an actual example in mind or are you just repeating the theory? > and my tanru was { nu me li no ku bangu ponse valsi finti } =3Dp No "ku" there! Terminators could be "boi lo'o me'u", but they can all be el= ided. Not strictly a tanru though, because of the "nu", but the thing inside the "nu" is a tanru. So what's a "zero type of language"? > Here's one that occurred to me. =A0{mumdeita'i}. =A0Let {lo ka ko'a mumde= ita'i} > mean that {ko'a} is tired in that way that one often feels tired on a fri= day > after work. =A0Or for you xorxes: =A0mumdeita'i =3D ko'a menli ja xadni t= atpi tai > lo nu ko'a mu'o gunka ca lo mumdei bu'u lo briju .a lo gunka selzvati For me you would use "jimdei" for "Friday", not "mumday", "a five-day perio= d". But mumdei actually happens to work quite well here, "tatpi lo djedi be li mu", "tired from the five-day long period (the work-week)". mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.