From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDbzq7lBBoE2ESRSw@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 05 15:32:16 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3G3O-0002T0-Va; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:32:16 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf1808199wwe.16 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:32:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uBz3XiFNA0mokdfmaRPqRdWmrN0ekgW2NWCSakQb2Qc=; b=RsSa/mnICYazsC7VYjWIj4TPHkHn8mZkU3YAcG/jORZtGG7fC1xU55yeLhxWIfkDbZ X5+GOc1h2zUTIi+j1PsipYFFYeCiGHXBor0OzY64DurOaZcFKE0qIdxGya6EJkf5kkHU 8bil/pG9oDN/KcTwuuQYV3ivLHMikTEGXep6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DqqM/muGSPOmxMCYXBH2LELGFk2Eeiut7Sq3co7prbVpPlU1WT7Oj0tNUDAdVmQsg4 SCz4/LfSApp7V1O02GzclMOqElXO2DK+KauXx9hkWBDYhMfzIStkUwVgz6+iB79NDAub cV5DvBJW2FyzRYCT2naUoKtEQnKt53g8HwU1c= Received: by 10.216.145.130 with SMTP id p2mr2267816wej.7.1286317915459; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:31:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.92.203 with SMTP id s11ls2218071wbm.1.p; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.144.207 with SMTP id a15mr475734wbv.15.1286317914068; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.144.207 with SMTP id a15mr475733wbv.15.1286317914005; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com (mail-ww0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x33si31528wbs.5.2010.10.05.15.31.52; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.49; Received: by mail-ww0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 17so50530wwi.18 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:31:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.27.193 with SMTP id j1mr9235221wbc.137.1286317912716; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 15:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:31:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010011823.25227.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4CA76670.50601@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 19:31:52 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > Doesn't the CLL talk somewhere about how making monday be 1 works for all > cultures because sunday can be day 0 or day 7. It might, I don't exactly remember. What do YOU think (about the issue, not about what CLL says)? How well would "mumdei" work for "Friday" for someone whose word for "Thurday" is something like "fifth day". Or for a Swahili speaker, whose word for Wednesday is something like "fifth day". I don't really know, because in the languages I know the weekdays are not called by numbers, but my guess is that switching from one number to a different number could be quite confusing, independently of whether Sunday is day 0 or day 7. >=A0Personally that's how I > remember weekday names in lojban anyway, I call sunday nondei. Right, you don't have any interference from English, which doesn't use numbers to name the days of the week. I don't have interference from Spanish either. I'm just speculating on what people who do have inteference from their native language would think about this. > I don't really care what the system is for naming days but it seems like > they should be sequential in some way in stead of seemingly random names. > =A0e.g. I prefer pavmasti to vormasti Any numerical sequence is unfortunately going to be in conflict with some languages, because there are three different numerical systems in use. We can just say we don't care, we'll go with the ISO norm and if that is horribly confusing for speakers of some languages, so be it, not our problem. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.