From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDa3a7lBBoEaBxy2g@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 05 16:04:14 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3GYM-0004HY-HU; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:04:14 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf1812663wwe.16 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:04:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rkhz3n/0vsbHxsvMs1A9oIN1ZURfO51DKZ/BH6LQXuo=; b=uoA38qbSegjGBHhYV/3liP6ThFCCQiJVueOsBWj0EdGvgPcgVbwhufu9Ga+xDk0lwl bN0Z1eVvA7H62yAhlBAa9X3xG0Bzkakezv8cGIja1qIiwKaUndh09lonGgDEKkNPQnKI QOAXOgYy1ueFgeJNoH9EzK+Z9QI6LyQB+4Iqc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UZlYhyA9SskhgWQL5xOY8eAoj3r/IhbDs0T4qKbtk3u1ZjMlLMeKj2/eiq+AVlw1yR l7/OmBR3ZmZFDB3kOMWmfyY2IsTsbJ4ugwS5V+LhBAlcUzq+nKCpFjgGCcUecGHAMZJJ kA+lZEIZ8gd73dpcCPcPFkb4huHwx4ZQB9uio= Received: by 10.216.144.196 with SMTP id n46mr2201640wej.21.1286319834474; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:03:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.39.10 with SMTP id d10ls2221532wbe.2.p; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.136.194 with SMTP id s2mr471230wbt.22.1286319833589; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.136.194 with SMTP id s2mr471229wbt.22.1286319833563; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f173.google.com (mail-wy0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ey20si41787wbb.6.2010.10.05.16.03.52; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.173; Received: by mail-wy0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 39so8366303wyb.18 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:03:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.27.193 with SMTP id j1mr9260732wbc.137.1286319832390; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Oct 2010 16:03:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010011823.25227.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4CA76670.50601@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:03:52 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > 2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas >> >> I would think the discussion has to come before the decision, not >> after. What's the point of discussing it afterwards? > > Discussion about which system to use, yes. > > Discussion about confusions arising from some people learning the (decide= d) > system, no. Why should such potential confusions not be taken into account when making the decision? It doesn't have to be the single deciding factor, but it can be one more factor to consider. For me personally, it is not the deciding factor, but it helped me decide against the numeric system, which I dislike more for Lojban-internal reasons. Unfortunately, for month names there isn't an equally nifty solution as for week-day names, so I haven't made up my mind on that yet. Fu'ivla names have been proposed, but I'm not too sure I like them. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.