From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhC2iq_lBBoEmaJ40A@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 05 17:39:36 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3I2e-0001FV-RW; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:39:36 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf5190935gya.16 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:39:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=x15aeQ74Q4DY6nHmTb3cn4Z2tUJVEfGHYUy8L1Nbh7g=; b=iT4bLk/oqprxV2XALR8DSxbYw1gJBxgCUUfXYnStbLrNdFlZudk9yOwzh8wMRj9KhK +/RVipYXGhWgUf9EZAkEqNT0zfKg7rqfSsWOl5yRydveszBw7al3k/Jkv4McKi3aPmd/ TsLPuiEHScP7EWkoJc/na3VNvdPXLuFIrWOQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Nack2ZUplx9yjIBfnCXnAuJn0ocVX5yxRzQgR0N8xs1oHaee6DRnxyUmXPZPgBakqD WG+kdL7wO8nXfZakxKWIaHR/ogFn3UfP0hrdbC+Hpd61tyq3SnLoU0+X2eHYsKluOxC8 ZzhBg22oCOQxsw01jL86EdVogJNZk4YRJw0uk= Received: by 10.91.17.18 with SMTP id u18mr828541agi.5.1286325558184; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:39:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls3438290ibr.2.p; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.141.8 with SMTP id m8mr86886icu.45.1286325557656; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.141.8 with SMTP id m8mr86885icu.45.1286325557630; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com (mail-iw0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id cm31si117563ibb.3.2010.10.05.17.39.16; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.171; Received: by mail-iw0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 9so601246iwn.30 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:39:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.11.69 with SMTP id s5mr13049585ibs.38.1286325552462; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Oct 2010 17:39:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010011823.25227.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4CA76670.50601@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 18:39:12 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325574d169ed7220491e80187 --000325574d169ed7220491e80187 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > > Actually, I just had a thought. What would you understand {.djepav.} to > > mean? Or, to do something grammatically illegal, {djepa}? > > Mmm... I like illegal! :) > > It still has the problem of being potentially confusing for speakers > of some languages, but from a purely Lojbanic perspective it's a great > way to get rid of the place structure of djedi. > > Could we do something similar for months? > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > {masti} only has a cv'v form rafsi, so we couldn't do thee same thing as fo= r {djeNN}, as in make a fake gismu. It would be {ma'ipa} et al., which break up into {ma'i NN}. We could do {.ma'ipav.} et al., and go into the hex digits for 10 - 12, assuming they have rafsi. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas <= ;jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Actually, I just had a thought. What would you understand {.djepav.} t= o
> mean? Or, to do something grammatically illegal, {djepa}?

Mmm... I like illegal! :)

It still has the problem of being potentially confusing for speakers
of some languages, but from a purely Lojbanic perspective it's a great<= br> way to get rid of the place structure of djedi.

Could we do something similar for months?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

{masti} only has a cv&= #39;v form rafsi, so we couldn't do thee same thing as for {djeNN}, as = in make a fake gismu. It would be {ma'ipa} et al., which break up into = {ma'i NN}. We could do {.ma'ipav.} et al., and go into the hex digi= ts for 10 - 12, assuming they have rafsi.

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le= bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to= the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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