From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCyjK_lBBoEPTm8iA@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 05 17:43:52 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3I6j-0001Om-Rg; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:43:52 -0700 Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9sf5221871gxk.16 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:43:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YzOHmVJZa5Uku1etheNGqdtF8em1SqLO9vRo+OGytwY=; b=OgUEJT9Jy1vhXd/yYcc+JmxKSa1fGiIzXwHoEF2Wuj3f6XuB7csvxOyfdocz7bevYG Zw1EwhoW6tYd5+ZQdZ9nW2VKqw7jv8FlPRmDzBid9ks9yYlla++r1VXV1qr0IzXVnDAO awAksujQffGTfvsmLf3iP3u1x1pc9/LvpMZwA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=0YUUJcZURrkI6t4hbsJclhtTOXpnSuGqy65tE7xXJKU+L8p+tPimRRVUYYOl1Nr/vE 56yK2gbKX66AsBD2ki8iRg23fNf6mhFqPhx0yCn4B3KYIJ5Zve8qa5nCZDxJluW8Lvr0 5+h7qXj8gzEA1oW628/iJrpkD0UpY5dPH0+Ug= Received: by 10.91.108.5 with SMTP id k5mr134233agm.17.1286325810185; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:43:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.196.65 with SMTP id ef1ls436598ibb.0.p; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.1.78 with SMTP id 14mr72770icf.51.1286325809552; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.1.78 with SMTP id 14mr72769icf.51.1286325809525; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f175.google.com (mail-iw0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e4si119431ibc.4.2010.10.05.17.43.28; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.175; Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so9467231iwn.20 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:43:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.149.198 with SMTP id u6mr13086541ibv.7.1286325808335; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Oct 2010 17:43:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010011823.25227.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4CA76670.50601@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 18:43:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=005045015703df15500491e81080 --005045015703df15500491e81080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > 2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas > >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : >> >> > >> > Actually, I just had a thought. What would you understand {.djepav.} t= o >> > mean? Or, to do something grammatically illegal, {djepa}? >> >> Mmm... I like illegal! :) >> >> It still has the problem of being potentially confusing for speakers >> of some languages, but from a purely Lojbanic perspective it's a great >> way to get rid of the place structure of djedi. >> >> Could we do something similar for months? >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> > > {masti} only has a cv'v form rafsi, so we couldn't do thee same thing as > for {djeNN}, as in make a fake gismu. It would be {ma'ipa} et al., which > break up into {ma'i NN}. We could do {.ma'ipav.} et al., and go into the = hex > digits for 10 - 12, assuming they have rafsi. In other news, jbofi'e has absolutely no idea what any of {djepa djere djec= i djevo djemu djexa djebi djeno} mean, but it parses them as gismu, so we could use them. They also have the advantage of being more liked by me than {pavdei} et al., and freeing those lujvo to mean what .xorxes. wants them to. :D So, assuming a large portion of jbogugde likes my latest idea, I propose we make the following: {djeNN} "x1 is day of week NN" Unless someone else has a better definition idea, and submit it to jbovlaste. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --005045015703df15500491e81080 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Jones <= span dir=3D"ltr"><eyeonus@gmail.com= > wrote:
2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Actually, I just had a thought. What would you understand {.djepav.} t= o
> mean? Or, to do something grammatically illegal, {djepa}?

Mmm... I like illegal! :)

It still has the problem of being potentially confusing for speakers
of some languages, but from a purely Lojbanic perspective it's a great<= br> way to get rid of the place structure of djedi.

Could we do something similar for months?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

{masti} only has= a cv'v form rafsi, so we couldn't do thee same thing as for {djeNN= }, as in make a fake gismu. It would be {ma'ipa} et al., which break up= into {ma'i NN}. We could do {.ma'ipav.} et al., and go into the he= x digits for 10 - 12, assuming they have rafsi.

In other news, jbofi'e has absolutely no idea w= hat any of {djepa djere djeci djevo djemu djexa djebi djeno} mean, but it p= arses them as gismu, so we could use them. They also have the advantage of = being more liked by me than {pavdei} et al., and freeing those lujvo to mea= n what .xorxes. wants them to. :D

So, assuming a large portion of jbogugde likes my latest idea, I propos= e we make the following:

{djeNN} "x1 is day of week NN"
Unless someone else has a better definition idea, and submit it to jbo= vlaste.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le= bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to= the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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