From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCAja_lBBoEqkGMVQ@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 05 17:45:05 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3I7y-0001QR-Ri; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:45:05 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf5192072gya.16 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:44:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=dPGhbNHkk60GYK7jxZktdtqovSs4q3I1S3XobtAvl4k=; b=kOwPf2AIO7qWCPNPRUrBQ2M7zg7cPjK+9wPpZ2WAEVzVhwwNXI77gmDP16hD17Gree 6BVpOhHES3Vu/osDNZxpUuZZa0WmK2+LGzfd8/e9rx1pu0rmjOqTN8pT7Yfg8Tvd1LW4 KFEUa4ozxUsCcgBTJmWvqVHhTda5qm7vALNBs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ILR+UxDZIPZUMByZ1Ulo1Hz3VgDkD3B3SeSGLhAIllLID14LD3pRwcsmDaHK7AnfO6 UNmfwxr2ccMewgwu/OggpU0aOEnLW1hSSzIZeGsI8BVUbDI/USsshD/WbpdQqinFDlSY a4kbByDEnnV+WlRpZRqL364g/+p3PfmMHoZps= Received: by 10.90.23.3 with SMTP id 3mr125101agw.28.1286325888537; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:44:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls3440145ibr.2.p; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.140 with SMTP id t12mr3326628ibd.4.1286325883977; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.140 with SMTP id t12mr3326627ibd.4.1286325883919; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f178.google.com (mail-iw0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e4si122963ibc.0.2010.10.05.17.44.42; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.178; Received: by iwn35 with SMTP id 35so13237968iwn.37 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:44:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.145.16 with SMTP id b16mr12982016ibv.198.1286325882606; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 17:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Oct 2010 17:44:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010011823.25227.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4CA76670.50601@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 18:44:42 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485e98b224c59d00491e815b8 --001485e98b224c59d00491e815b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> 2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas >> >>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Jones >>> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> > Actually, I just had a thought. What would you understand {.djepav.} = to >>> > mean? Or, to do something grammatically illegal, {djepa}? >>> >>> Mmm... I like illegal! :) >>> >>> It still has the problem of being potentially confusing for speakers >>> of some languages, but from a purely Lojbanic perspective it's a great >>> way to get rid of the place structure of djedi. >>> >>> Could we do something similar for months? >>> >>> mu'o mi'e xorxes >>> >> >> {masti} only has a cv'v form rafsi, so we couldn't do thee same thing as >> for {djeNN}, as in make a fake gismu. It would be {ma'ipa} et al., which >> break up into {ma'i NN}. We could do {.ma'ipav.} et al., and go into the= hex >> digits for 10 - 12, assuming they have rafsi. > > > In other news, jbofi'e has absolutely no idea what any of {djepa djere > djeci djevo djemu djexa djebi djeno} mean, but it parses them as gismu, s= o > we could use them. They also have the advantage of being more liked by me > than {pavdei} et al., and freeing those lujvo to mean what .xorxes. wants > them to. :D > > So, assuming a large portion of jbogugde likes my latest idea, I propose = we > make the following: > > {djeNN} "x1 is day of week NN" > > Unless someone else has a better definition idea, and submit it to > jbovlaste. Sorry, I miscounted. I meant {djeze}, not {djebi}. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Jonathan Jones <= span dir=3D"ltr"><eyeonus@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:39 PM= , Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@= gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Actually, I just had a thought. What would you understand {.djepav.} t= o
> mean? Or, to do something grammatically illegal, {djepa}?

Mmm... I like illegal! :)

It still has the problem of being potentially confusing for speakers
of some languages, but from a purely Lojbanic perspective it's a great<= br> way to get rid of the place structure of djedi.

Could we do something similar for months?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

{masti} only has= a cv'v form rafsi, so we couldn't do thee same thing as for {djeNN= }, as in make a fake gismu. It would be {ma'ipa} et al., which break up= into {ma'i NN}. We could do {.ma'ipav.} et al., and go into the he= x digits for 10 - 12, assuming they have rafsi.

In other news, jbofi'e has absolutely no = idea what any of {djepa djere djeci djevo djemu djexa djebi djeno} mean, bu= t it parses them as gismu, so we could use them. They also have the advanta= ge of being more liked by me than {pavdei} et al., and freeing those lujvo = to mean what .xorxes. wants them to. :D

So, assuming a large portion of jbogugde likes my latest idea, I propos= e we make the following:

{djeNN} "x1 is day of week NN"
Unless someone else has a better definition idea, and submit it to jbo= vlaste.

Sorry, I miscounted. I meant {djeze}, not {djebi}.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima= le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come= to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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