From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCdta_lBBoEn6A_gQ@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 05 19:10:55 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3JT2-0006Ij-7y; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:10:55 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf5215643gya.16 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:10:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=+B9ozrMYrq33I3VfNJ6LPCLv8DyuqOju6/IpY02AVak=; b=Ux5uoNikZk1V/AFR5NqpV1RNJi3dEtU59wZpdQPMxUvxmSUAODzfWRGaVtZuq+HhxI qErcWG/ebfkiK37aob8ETIWaOCdPcZDcru9BZ9y6T5aMP98xXYWYsvCbctZOAOm1sCb0 CjfzzRDEqVMYT0iWZjFAzkIxkhug5o5ylQyO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=22EqHOsEV9qZv2p/qCC94u/wl64xhBiO6Ko3SR5OnR66mk1oBhf+Fv6u/hnpvRF0EV NRU4MXOtV63ideKY9HkZ0FQ6rBmfAkr22wDutrXtFBKHuv46Sf7LhTjr1Mg9RDwrnwcC VgbRLzb5GfrLgErXNtAkyAsLr1GbWOwP+jH4c= Received: by 10.91.196.10 with SMTP id y10mr130441agp.13.1286331037654; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:10:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.125.77 with SMTP id x13ls3474347ibr.1.p; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.7 with SMTP id ce7mr2516913ibb.7.1286331037042; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.7 with SMTP id ce7mr2516912ibb.7.1286331036992; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com (mail-iw0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id db12si164532ibb.1.2010.10.05.19.10.35; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.171; Received: by mail-iw0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 9so689147iwn.30 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:10:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.135 with SMTP id c7mr13149625ibd.3.1286331035741; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Oct 2010 19:10:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010011823.25227.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4CA76670.50601@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:10:35 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022150488a772efc50491e9481b --0022150488a772efc50491e9481b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : > > > > So, basically, we have "djeNN" for the days of the week, and "lunraNN[N= ]" > > for the months. I like it. Really easy to remember, just as easy to > figure > > out, makes logical sense (big points there), and isn't a friggin' cmevl= a > or > > fu'ivla. > > Ehhhmm... lunrapa, lunrare, ..., lunragai are all fu'ivla. Unless by > "fu'ivla" you don't mean form. > I mean they aren't borrowed from another language. > > I think it's time to start a thread on this in the beginner's group an= d > put > > them to a vote. > > I'm not sure it's the kind of thing beginners should be deciding though. > > Well, I'm pretty sure everyone involved with Lojban is on the beginner's group, and so posting it there would reach the largest number of jbopre. It was either that or the BPFK list, and I don't think this is, yet, an issue for the BPFK, considering the BPFK is still on the describe-everything-in-the-language point, so the add-new-stuff point is still a bit off. In other words, officialness is pretty much a guaranteed no, but usage is a possible yes. 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2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com&g= t;
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, basically, we have "djeNN" for the days of the week, and= "lunraNN[N]"
> for the months. I like it. Really easy to remember, just as easy to fi= gure
> out, makes logical sense (big points there), and isn't a friggin&#= 39; cmevla or
> fu'ivla.

Ehhhmm... lunrapa, lunrare, ..., lunragai are all fu'ivla. Unless= by
"fu'ivla" you don't mean form.

I= mean they aren't borrowed from another language.
=A0
> I think it's time to start a thread on this in the beginner's = group and put
> them to a vote.

I'm not sure it's the kind of thing beginners should be decid= ing though.


Well, I'm = pretty sure everyone involved with Lojban is on the beginner's group, a= nd so posting it there would reach the largest number of jbopre. It was eit= her that or the BPFK list, and I don't think this is, yet, an issue for= the BPFK, considering the BPFK is still on the describe-everything-in-the-= language point, so the add-new-stuff point is still a bit off.

In other words, officialness is pretty much a guaranteed no, but usage = is a possible yes. Hence, the beginner's list.
=A0
mu'o mi'e xorxes

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