From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDCta_lBBoEmDa9Xg@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 05 19:11:32 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3JTd-0006KV-9v; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:11:32 -0700 Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9sf5245340gxk.16 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JqHJ18E+4KQgNCELyhTo7lKSnjm4dFFUm7hmihEFjto=; b=mahrItCMUokk8kiFMopcmy+C4fgwZH6ZYhjlUHvVnc0xaxIFpuotcPTppoZApecrIJ ZcVndn16ow/AVjIf9pMIpIxbtR9HPFFlKkWOFqiKFU5tZsPm9Ahez02TP6SWvpbZrCGC qS+O7ggmJMUZbYrfmwCKqw//NVuNce4W2x9X8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=5ho873+W2Tg7VBw4AYUn9+IkTssWGcN0R5x2VLCax/RiO7rNeFS/14Ql8dLJEGQnyb JH2TpN3k9kRPAfiH1NCLugzwh4iOBt6QOfuhaysGiGPUrrl6ujTKSAz9NIzUbduHVw9v JX4/J26Sfz2Xy3+DaQy/BcDQ8gbpwBc6s+fiw= Received: by 10.101.103.12 with SMTP id f12mr236998anm.64.1286331074492; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:11:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.194.29 with SMTP id w29ls2989016anp.1.p; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.189.3 with SMTP id m3mr716601anf.43.1286331073957; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.189.3 with SMTP id m3mr716600anf.43.1286331073932; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f175.google.com (mail-gy0-f175.google.com [209.85.160.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n12si171014ana.7.2010.10.05.19.11.12; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.175; Received: by gyg8 with SMTP id 8so2380662gyg.6 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:11:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.1.14 with SMTP id 14mr2572483ice.49.1286331072723; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Oct 2010 19:11:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010011823.25227.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4CA76670.50601@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:11:12 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba18185ea73dd20491e94a8a --90e6ba18185ea73dd20491e94a8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > 2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas > >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> >> > >> > So, basically, we have "djeNN" for the days of the week, and >> "lunraNN[N]" >> > for the months. I like it. Really easy to remember, just as easy to >> figure >> > out, makes logical sense (big points there), and isn't a friggin' cmev= la >> or >> > fu'ivla. >> >> Ehhhmm... lunrapa, lunrare, ..., lunragai are all fu'ivla. Unless by >> "fu'ivla" you don't mean form. >> > > I mean they aren't borrowed from another language. > (And have evil, difficult pronunciation. Forgot that point. :) ) > > >> > I think it's time to start a thread on this in the beginner's group a= nd >> put >> > them to a vote. >> >> I'm not sure it's the kind of thing beginners should be deciding though. >> >> > Well, I'm pretty sure everyone involved with Lojban is on the beginner's > group, and so posting it there would reach the largest number of jbopre. = It > was either that or the BPFK list, and I don't think this is, yet, an issu= e > for the BPFK, considering the BPFK is still on the > describe-everything-in-the-language point, so the add-new-stuff point is > still a bit off. > > In other words, officialness is pretty much a guaranteed no, but usage is= a > possible yes. 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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Jonathan= Jones <eyeonus@g= mail.com> wrote:


2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb= =EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> So, basically, we have "djeNN" for the days of the week, and= "lunraNN[N]"
> for the months. I like it. Really easy to remember, just as easy to fi= gure
> out, makes logical sense (big points there), and isn't a friggin&#= 39; cmevla or
> fu'ivla.

Ehhhmm... lunrapa, lunrare, ..., lunragai are= all fu'ivla. Unless by
"fu'ivla" you don't mean form.

I mean they aren't borrowed from another language.
=

(And have evil, difficult pronunciation. Forgot that = point. :) )
=A0
> I think it's time to start a thread on this in the beginner's = group and put
> them to a vote.

I'm not sure it's the kind of thing beginners should be decid= ing though.


Well, I'm pretty sure everyo= ne involved with Lojban is on the beginner's group, and so posting it t= here would reach the largest number of jbopre. It was either that or the BP= FK list, and I don't think this is, yet, an issue for the BPFK, conside= ring the BPFK is still on the describe-everything-in-the-language point, so= the add-new-stuff point is still a bit off.

In other words, officialness is pretty much a guaranteed no, but usage = is a possible yes. Hence, the beginner's list.
=A0
mu'o mi'e xorxes

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(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )




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