From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDq5pjlBBoEoaHMJw@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 01 12:16:16 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P1l5U-0005dg-5t; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:16:16 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf872918wwe.16 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:16:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=apApipGewMZ6WKfgQseBVg+SyAQ6ilK4cYC9K6mKIBs=; b=wEliZhkg0iuiLi43AMNEM8LlcgZIZp0Yg/t2sdCxajzWyj+Hhp7D+032DbHN1hH648 bqjhFSnHIJMBOMNPmqNNt6lLSlUY4nfrf6PcX96F8zWtyRsS4o1rkFxubuBlGbDYaHVM /Wt8N8AtQ8b9itYt1Q8nY7TsCyd093ZmbqDM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f6ht4h9iNKGhbDMhKNBA09FUbachtCWsVxTl/hKkj/rixvixCZRO8VnEQm50V2fst2 9YPlfGcnaxvNlFbXLwWQwBUVJLIlP4GXe7K91pvkm5vqyz5Dnm/aX9aq09pBn5YleZF3 T018nQutyuaFF89wh13YJCjvhuAbch8M1vjEY= Received: by 10.216.145.9 with SMTP id o9mr1245788wej.0.1285960554985; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:15:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.198.162 with SMTP id v34ls1357927wen.3.p; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.73.202 with SMTP id v52mr327707wed.6.1285960553073; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.73.202 with SMTP id v52mr327706wed.6.1285960553050; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o41si464052weq.12.2010.10.01.12.15.52; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.54; Received: by mail-ww0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 17so243400wwi.35 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:15:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.129.149 with SMTP id o21mr4821102wbs.176.1285960551773; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 12:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 12:15:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:15:51 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > sorry to break into=A0English=A0but my lojban isn't good enough yet. > If I'm understanding the conversation correctly, the =A0discussion betwee= n you > and selkik is whether it should be tcebroda or brodytce. Right, for a lujvo with the meaning "ko'a mutce lo ka ce'u broda ko'e ko'i = ...". >=A0Should a similar > question be asked about rai, nel/nei, mle, etc... For traji, and zmadu, yes, I brought them up because they are similar. If by "mle" you mean "mli" (milxe), then yes, I think they should follow the same pattern, and my argument was that nobody proposes using zmadu or traji (in the intended sense) as prefixes. I'm not sure what nel/nei is doing here since it's a completely different thing. And "zmanei" does not mean "ko'a zmadu lo ka ce'u nelci ko'e", so it's not an example of the kind of -zma/-mau we were talking about. >=A0It seems like there are > many tanru that I could see going either way. =A0Is that a beautiful type= -of > tree or is that beautiful in a tree kind of way? You are now talking about tanru, yes? >=A0Am I superlative type-of > fond of... or am I a fond kind of superlative about...? What are either of those supposed to mean? That you are the person that mosts likes something, or that some thing is the thing you like the most? > I think that the CLL talks about tanru/lujvo being reflexive vs not. Do you mean symmetric? Reflexive is something else. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.