From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCe6bLlBBoESRHn7A@googlegroups.com Wed Oct 06 10:41:03 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3Xz9-0001on-2K; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:41:02 -0700 Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9sf6047240gxk.16 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:40:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ct1g81tcpz2L6PwrJzuChAFMfxTnQAFRq0O0fcL/MHg=; b=rwF3zhOSpX4AUu24yUYr9rU8TbTLeR4OQW1ppFcCwjN0RLIkoZLHFsp1HTkELEL2II N7CYpRKm9vpZoY/7ac1tSVaCFvAEYSWzotvLvOsXVPGY4P3LQA74f4nbRgESHF2ZE7JN IHLsf5MMEYMRMRt4Uu6kG/5ca6ybsqt/LNMio= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=h+5JKec1Cd76cgZNXaREMLrxY6x2+CuRvjGgxTxufhIZrsBof/x/9jdEKsWajgTIpC QQb52rlZht16rt2aWZcKxsvet5QTSdOJ2AG2duFCUBkh//mpid6kUbga1aze7W/eNJwt f7e3jj91/1VZNyLLPze3wVzsbEDmzXAZ5kbtQ= Received: by 10.90.57.4 with SMTP id f4mr352857aga.31.1286386846663; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:40:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.125.77 with SMTP id x13ls262329ibr.1.p; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.160.79 with SMTP id m15mr3528603ibx.6.1286386845882; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.160.79 with SMTP id m15mr3528602ibx.6.1286386845818; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com (mail-iw0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bm7si565074ibb.6.2010.10.06.10.40.44; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.169; Received: by mail-iw0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 2so315482iwn.28 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.30.193 with SMTP id v1mr14272801ibc.87.1286386844333; Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201010061941.38180.jezuch@interia.pl> References: <0cee366c-9694-4744-b8fe-2d95a393f3a6@y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com> <26bc2bd7-bad2-4dc7-b394-b72ecd3ce4a7@e14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> <201010061941.38180.jezuch@interia.pl> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 13:40:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: a different weekday proposal From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032557a0d6e7ec480491f64612 --00032557a0d6e7ec480491f64612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> Why friday is payday? > >It seems to me this is not even specific to Western culture, but only to Anglo-Saxon one, where there are wages paid weekly. Apparently not even that broad. I get paid on thursdays and I'm a middle-class white employee in the software industry in new england. If one's going to be malglico it seems like I'd be a prime candidate. And it doesn't even work for me. Would this be {malprenu}? Bias of the individua= l as opposed to "cultural bias"? On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Krzysztof Sobolewski wro= te: > Dnia =B6roda, 6 pa=BCdziernika 2010 o 10:24:40 Balon_ napisa=B3(a): > > > In some cultures and countries Sunday is not restday. Sunday is > > workday. > > It's a pity, because I tcetcetce nelci "niedziela" for a do-nothing day. > > > partyday in Saturday is specific to western culture. > > Every day is party day! ;) > > > mijdei should be thursday not wednesday. > > And yet "=B6roda" (mid-day) is wednesday. Even though "czwartek" (fourth-= day) > and "pi=B1tek" (fifth-day) are thursday and friday, respectively. > Inconsistencies in natural languages are lovely ;) > > > Why friday is payday? > > It seems to me this is not even specific to Western culture, but only to > Anglo-Saxon one, where there are wages paid weekly. > > > Considering all this, I wonder: we have local major money units (rupnu), > local length units (gutci), local area units (kramu), but time is measure= d > in minutes, hours, days (OK, this is no surprise), 7-day weeks and > 1/12-of-the-year months. Why? > -- > Ecce Jezuch > "Do unto others what has been done to you (...) > Do unto you now what has been done to me." - M. J. Keenan > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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>It seems to me this is not even specific to Western culture= , but only to Anglo-Saxon one, where there are wages paid weekly.
Apparently not even that broad. =A0I get paid on thursdays and I&#= 39;m a middle-class white employee in the software industry in new england.= =A0If one's going to be malglico it seems like I'd be a prime=A0ca= ndidate. =A0And it doesn't even work for me. =A0Would this be {malprenu= }? =A0Bias of the individual as opposed to "cultural bias"?

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Krzyszt= of Sobolewski <je= zuch@interia.pl> wrote:
Dnia =B6roda, 6 pa=BCdziernika 2010 o 10:24:40 Balon_ napisa=B3(a):

> In some cultures and countries Sunday is not restday. Sunday is
> workday.

It's a pity, because I tcetcetce nelci "niedziela" for = a do-nothing day.

> partyday in Saturday is specific to western culture.

Every day is party day! ;)

> mijdei should be thursday not wednesday.

And yet "=B6roda" (mid-day) is wednesday. Even though "= ;czwartek" (fourth-day) and "pi=B1tek" (fifth-day) are thurs= day and friday, respectively. Inconsistencies in natural languages are love= ly ;)

> Why friday is payday?

It seems to me this is not even specific to Western culture, but only to An= glo-Saxon one, where there are wages paid weekly.


Considering all this, I wonder: we have local major money units (rupnu), lo= cal length units (gutci), local area units (kramu), but time is measured in= minutes, hours, days (OK, this is no surprise), 7-day weeks and 1/12-of-th= e-year months. Why?
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Ecce Jezuch
"Do unto others what has been done to you (...)
Do unto you now what has been done to me." - M. J. Keenan

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