From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDisJnlBBoEnehUig@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 01 14:53:54 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P1nY6-0006dj-Br; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:53:53 -0700 Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40sf899250wyb.16 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:53:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zu5iWxaoiMdcbUo1RAbJW22BWCe0+pBy91bn6ydKo64=; b=47mj5zEKhqwq7l14AXi07ViPXr9SqLcrdhQxljVT9rhL/Ydcb3hRv1YFkLlItA2msD qjLi5pQ6NbzHGYck+g2IuKC3BrQTHKPWU/NZM0dSf0bTDY4YNEQW70jN9mNlNQS0cB7v WIqOGB2zunWaF4agsjQtgDhCvg3yhI5/9bRwc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XnPKCBy7CmbGa/wM/jQmcC1IJLatnRdDwRCROw+Fb+0alXbluRJ5HmHYeGO+btHS2Q Zson8I6P5MDPc/BI4qHxSsnUGtpJNQbvJi1Zxw17ta3NjYUUjCvhqSJ6EBcFNwhws0RD rHbcq5Yq+UOla005nWfvYE9oGK+BYuKvgsubk= Received: by 10.216.145.135 with SMTP id p7mr1308878wej.11.1285970018081; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:53:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.237.165 with SMTP id y37ls1398631weq.1.p; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.154.82 with SMTP id g60mr299320wek.11.1285970016642; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.154.82 with SMTP id g60mr299319wek.11.1285970016619; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f46.google.com (mail-ww0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o46si514391weq.2.2010.10.01.14.53.35; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.46; Received: by mail-ww0-f46.google.com with SMTP id 31so4004465wwb.15 for ; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:53:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.147.198 with SMTP id m6mr5386892wbv.78.1285970014804; Fri, 01 Oct 2010 14:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Oct 2010 14:53:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 18:53:34 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > I must have gotten mixed up from reading the CLL's algorithm for turning = a > tanru into a lujvo. =A0For those of us not well-versed enough, what are t= he > main arguments for/against tcebroda vs brodytce? =A0If a lujvo is defined= and > not=A0necessarily=A0built with a rigid rule-set from it's component gismu= , then > tcebroda vs brodytce is ultimately a question of preference right? We're discussing preferences, yes. My preference is for being as systematic as possible, so: zmadu fi lo ka broda -> rodmau mleca fi lo ka broda -> rodme'a traji lo ka broda -> rodrai mutce lo ka broda -> rodytce milxe lo ka broda -> rodmli cenba lo ka broda -> rodycne zenba lo ka broda -> rodze'a jdika lo ka broda -> rodjdika and probably some more I'm forgetting. I'll leave the argument for "tcebroda" to those who prefer it. I don't find too convincing any appeals to English wording sounding better one way or the other, or to tanru.. If you prefer "tcebroda" then presumably you should also prefer "zmabroda" and "rairbroda", or if not why not? A similar discrepancy I have with those who prefer prefix sim- to suffix -si'u for reciprocals. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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