From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCZ07flBBoEqqB3OA@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 07 08:39:21 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3sYw-0005Ta-Oi; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:39:21 -0700 Received: by yxk30 with SMTP id 30sf471872yxk.16 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:39:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Z63qIeA0TZu4APiF6SDlVvqmOtf0js1aGyWWKMy0rV0=; b=YxAQrj75DsZcxELp3Jx6sURyugHbbGA0yEEFBHDDp6iTx6Y52Xa48LicVC0BvG+ht0 wpqFOJTRrocGrimA1ZbkvHdRKHsye0/WS4b3cHul4U60xWC3QXqbsAH17EkrSiIzBRRi w1YJkK7kaFYbIxY0Xwzvxida/e5NPo+mc+aUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=5Qx2SfC8fsWOzUiKE/76kuTeMbxksA7/hGR+6MNGM7jERzqP2riFs6b+7WdbtQfvXB efJdG40O0gAwiO1RqcyWbCt7Be5nkPwR4PvhmiV8Iy/86hm1A0ADCRJKjW/HHvG2z38K qlVKrJdoG/t4A0nr/+TOpphRna/IfU/c02DJA= Received: by 10.90.57.4 with SMTP id f4mr95299aga.1.1286465945754; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:39:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls127701ibr.2.p; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.73 with SMTP id s9mr236121ibd.14.1286465944833; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.73 with SMTP id s9mr236120ibd.14.1286465944697; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f173.google.com (mail-iw0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bm7si1307257ibb.2.2010.10.07.08.39.03; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by iwn38 with SMTP id 38so678909iwn.18 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:39:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.169.203 with SMTP id a11mr1022326ibz.99.1286465941213; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Oct 2010 08:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:39:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] cmavo and the gismu like them From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68dec3b7113a4049208b192 --0016e68dec3b7113a4049208b192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just noticed that the word for "too many" is {du'e} and thought "Oh, like dukse. That'll be helpful for remembering {du'e}. neat-o". Unfortunately, to a new user whose trying to learn all the cmavo there seems to be no link between the many cmavo and the gismu that are similar to them. For instance, I feel confident that I'll now be able to remember {du'e} because I know the gismu dukse and that's enough of a mental prod for me to get to du'e. But what about {mo'a}? There are no rafsi of that form, but that doesn't mean that there are no gismu that look like it. And I haven't been able to find a list or anything that makes all these similarities easy to find. So, two questions. pamai Are there any gismu from which {mo'a} "originates" like dukse ~= du'e that could aid me in remembering it? remai Is there a list in existence for pairing these gismu~=cmavo to make the lives of nintadni easier? repimumai If not, whose up for a little project? mu'o mi'e cribe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016e68dec3b7113a4049208b192 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just noticed that the word for "too many" is {du'e} and tho= ught "Oh, like dukse. =A0That'll be helpful for remembering {du= 9;e}. =A0neat-o". =A0

Unfortunately, to a new user = whose trying to learn all the cmavo there seems to be no link between the m= any cmavo and the gismu that are similar to them. =A0For instance, I feel c= onfident that I'll now be able to remember {du'e} because I know th= e gismu dukse and that's enough of a mental prod for me to get to du= 9;e. =A0

But what about {mo'a}? =A0There are no rafsi of tha= t form, but that doesn't mean that there are no gismu that look like it= . =A0And I haven't been able to find a list or anything that makes all = these similarities easy to find.

So, two questions. =A0

pamai A= re there any gismu from which {mo'a} "originates" like dukse = ~=3D du'e that could aid me in remembering it?
remai =A0Is th= ere a list in existence for pairing these gismu~=3Dcmavo to make the lives = of nintadni easier?
repimumai If not, whose up for a little project?

<= div>mu'o mi'e cribe

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