From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCwhLjlBBoEalssXg@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 07 10:24:17 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3uCT-0003BJ-4t; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:24:17 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf65553gwb.16 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:24:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=kBrdqgxgWfBcAlgREXnjG7D5zlN3kPLasTyVGbqzkms=; b=x6TTWfYAv5e8vpM5dyPA8d6CvGZgXN/maoQcSDL8xFWL9Ch5aMQ6OifiI1s6BABUed thcvm5IXeDSqgtsNdFQPEWwOiWes6+HOqZQuQHiCG8b3vZ8ahLCth7ITfoW/xKjlpjMe iU6pSrUpAxLI+ef7RuP7WKxiEVQi0UR4qhoJs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=G1xpczJPG4WCmJ8ugAX26vST0OAES76Ign+uJPMilgXqRWU9EEkrAADKzipeX9sf+/ +yqBEvBxWcm6SSu8Bo6/U/3MaBIBoPcZ03AyZkSUYdm1WZMnvpeUe9O4zARekaNY6jpk Gt3LmSEGS9gEI4KnQ2OEfaD/bItX/rGbbzTKY= Received: by 10.91.161.20 with SMTP id n20mr120175ago.34.1286472240078; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:24:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls169234ibr.2.p; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.83 with SMTP id s19mr303528ibv.2.1286472239185; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.83 with SMTP id s19mr303527ibv.2.1286472239151; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f170.google.com (mail-iw0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b32si1123940ibq.1.2010.10.07.10.23.58; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.170; Received: by mail-iw0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 41so177537iwn.1 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:23:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.15.138 with SMTP id k10mr1202011iba.17.1286472237905; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:23:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010071224.31384.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 13:23:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmavo and the gismu like them From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221532cb50c0f86d04920a28db --00221532cb50c0f86d04920a28db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lo'ai ponsi sa'ai pensi le'ai On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > sweeeeet. Now this is the comprehensive kind of list I was talking about. > Anybody else have a contribution? So far I've got: > > sevzi: se'i, se'o, se'a > zgana: za'a, ga'a > zmadu: za'u, mau, ma'u > ponse: po, po'e, (I'm also unsure of how po'o is linked to ponse) > xamgu: vau > ponsi: pe'i > mulno: mu'o > mi: mi'e (sweet, never thought of it that way) > > Maybe I should just concentrate on learning the rest of the gismu. Maybe > that'll make tackling the rest of the cmavo that I don't know easier if s= o > many of them have some kind of gismu origin. > > 2010/10/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Michael Turniansky >> wrote: >> > po/po'e and even po'o are all from ponse. >> >> What's the connection between "po'o" and "ponse"? >> >> "pe'i" is from "pensi", even though it only makes sense through malglico= . >> >> mu'o (from mulno) mi'e (from "mi" not from a gismu!) xorxes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> >> > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --00221532cb50c0f86d04920a28db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lo'ai ponsi sa'ai pensi le'ai

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrot= e:
sweeeeet. Now this is the comprehensive kin= d of list I was talking about. =A0Anybody else have a contribution? =A0So f= ar I've got:

sevzi: se'i, se'o, se'a
zgana: za'= a, ga'a
zmadu: za'u, mau, ma'u
ponse: po, po'e, (I'm= also unsure of how po'o is linked to ponse)
xamgu: vau
=
ponsi: pe'i
mulno: mu'o
mi: mi'e (swee= t, never thought of it that way)

Maybe I should just concentrate on learning the rest of= the gismu. =A0Maybe that'll make tackling the rest of the cmavo that I= don't know easier if so many of them have some kind of gismu origin.
2010/10/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@g= mail.com>

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@= gmail.com> wrote:
> po/po'e and even po'o are all from ponse.

What's the connection between "po'o" and "pons= e"?

"pe'i" is from "pensi", even though it only makes s= ense through malglico.

mu'o (from mulno) mi'e (from "mi" not from a gismu!) xorx= es

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