From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCUirjlBBoEVPrg8A@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 07 10:36:37 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3uOP-0003oC-30; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:36:37 -0700 Received: by yxk30 with SMTP id 30sf73402yxk.16 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:36:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JUAAPTQ992gk0eNCTyfdPQRnaWSZuS8Gm6fGXr2VloI=; b=1e1qXCHQl1H0U1PcdF2xJK1Iiyqg/umUTQPM5BkbmvUg2fvgtDaI4n89jpQdg4rOyA Q5ksLvXbExx7kF1UT4vS8ISepc0t8/rop1+3vApDTa3C/CPkInhjNl827NjZJ16KQTqb CGns+7QIDqjti9JBAHS6uTFqAN3j8/EZX/7zc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=xWucp3ZM+o+wDcCgQLh0rZJcAo+Ug/gKaKoFDKl1r+K+Ht0ZpLzzF0YuTyiwfDRIdz FYYs1sfbmhGMPijYzzDjES8tkzbxJckwplLzr2V4RS1H1g0gia45C+lX9NAe8gB0KtgJ FBuVFVF39/1K6o8wjQ+gYezl1DAl4brVMHHQw= Received: by 10.91.159.11 with SMTP id l11mr118263ago.54.1286472980140; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:36:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls173142ibg.3.p; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.83 with SMTP id s19mr308523ibv.2.1286472978949; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.83 with SMTP id s19mr308522ibv.2.1286472978921; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f176.google.com (mail-iw0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e4si1514740ibc.0.2010.10.07.10.36.17; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by iwn6 with SMTP id 6so94071iwn.7 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:36:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.16.204 with SMTP id p12mr1134044iba.194.1286472975727; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:36:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010071224.31384.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 13:36:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmavo and the gismu like them From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325572ea6bc02b204920a5475 --000325572ea6bc02b204920a5475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see what you're driving at. Ok, {po'o} is added to the list for {ponse} On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Michael Turniansky w= rote: > > > 2010/10/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas > >> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Michael Turniansky >> >> wrote: >> > po/po'e and even po'o are all from ponse. >> >> What's the connection between "po'o" and "ponse"? >> > > (perhaps "derived" was too strong a word. I more properly should have > said a mnemonic link could be made between them. In the case of ponse -> > po'o while this more properly should have come from srana, perhaps, think= of > it as "this bridi 'belongs' to only this case" (la djan po'o lebna le jdi= ni > -> Only John took the money -> "taking of the money" belongs to "John" > because no one else has that property of money-taking) > >> >> "pe'i" is from "pensi", even though it only makes sense through malglico= . >> > > Right.. It SHOULD have come from jinvi > >> >> mu'o (from mulno) mi'e (from "mi" not from a gismu!) xorxes >> > > --gejyspa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --000325572ea6bc02b204920a5475 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see what you're driving at. =A0Ok, {po'o} is added to the list fo= r {ponse}

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:34 PM,= Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:


2010/10/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansk= y@gmail.com> wrote:
> po/po'e and even po'o are all fr= om ponse.

What's the connection between "po'o" and "ponse"= ;?
=A0
=A0 (perhaps "derived" was too strong a word.=A0 I more prop= erly should have said a mnemonic link could be made between them.=A0 In the= case of ponse -> po'o while this more properly should have come fro= m srana, perhaps, think of it as "this bridi 'belongs' to only= this case" (la djan po'o lebna le jdini -> Only John took the = money -> "taking of the money" belongs to "John" bec= ause no one else has that property of money-taking)

"pe'i" is from &quo= t;pensi", even though it only makes sense through malglico.
=A0
=A0 Right.. It SHOULD have come from jinvi

mu'o (from mulno) mi'e (f= rom "mi" not from a gismu!) xorxes
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa

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