From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDUw7jlBBoEX9p5Ew@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 07 12:39:16 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3wJ7-00053U-AU; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:39:16 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf149160gya.16 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=LlHZsvuauNiFRp7OGV+mR1J3uN6GUJNgTa1g9pVb6dk=; b=FKPCS8KHG/4USvm2v4Pe42eAFO060blgPIi1pIGLz5MXlSm90Y+TpiG0VPYen+F0dd U1soI/GelYZP3Jh1QDmIhLpoYUPAlSdTkGU64GsE/tvnUXQFjumn+fwK3RDIICchmtxS fBRyH4JKBWTSLxGqTVsaSMswL1z/rb9mraE3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=DLKd0YOgBc16F2Srk0400hF6GuLYMPvyWDUj+GDgcHZQvXcRpN5ERkKVP4gsqejFMd 5DqLmsY9m24bIOZzDyKMj4jcnvSFO33bHzxId5UB1t53YPqFOIJu47WT4oxUQ2rKNJ5R e8EpU1VZVNSZnET2+HNhQixksXqsYXn0L3Ta8= Received: by 10.91.199.12 with SMTP id b12mr146737agq.16.1286480340870; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:39:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.180.73 with SMTP id bt9ls153663ibb.0.p; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.58.206 with SMTP id i14mr395994ibh.0.1286480340326; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.58.206 with SMTP id i14mr395993ibh.0.1286480340292; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f174.google.com (mail-iw0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b32si1202599ibq.5.2010.10.07.12.38.59; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.174; Received: by mail-iw0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 9so296962iwn.33 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:38:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.33.205 with SMTP id i13mr1372413ibd.59.1286480334804; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:38:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0cee366c-9694-4744-b8fe-2d95a393f3a6@y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 13:38:54 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: a different weekday proposal From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221534c94f5dd7e904920c0b66 --00221534c94f5dd7e904920c0b66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Stela Selckiku wrote: > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > > I might be more inclined to use them is {gejyspa} was removed from them, > as > > in {zarskudei}. {zarskugejyspadei} is just way too long for me. :P > > That was my favorite part about them! I'm sick of how clajvo-phobic > we are. (Especially since I've started studying Potawatomi, this fear > of long words has come to seem malglico to me!) We could leave out > the "gejyspa" though when speaking hurriedly or casually and it could > just be implied. Hmm, maybe the real full name of badnydei is > "xarjvectibadnydei" (xanri zei je zei citka zei badna zei djedi, > imagine+and+eat+bananas+day)! > > mi'e .telselkik. mu'o > It's not fear. It's laziness. In /every/ language, the most used words are also the shortest. Even if we did use those names for the days of the week, it's a guarantee that they will be shortened really quickly. Weekdays are used often enough that anything more than three syllables is a waste. On the other hand, something like "the nail of the big toe", { brajmadegycalku}, doesn't really come up in conversation very often, so it's perfectly fine for it to be a long word. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00221534c94f5dd7e904920c0b66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Stela Selckiku <= span dir=3D"ltr"><selckiku@gmail.c= om> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I might be more inclined to use them is {gejyspa} was removed from the= m, as
> in {zarskudei}. {zarskugejyspadei} is just way too long for me. :P

That was my favorite part about them! =A0I'm sick of how clajvo-p= hobic
we are. =A0(Especially since I've started studying Potawatomi, this fea= r
of long words has come to seem malglico to me!) =A0We could leave out
the "gejyspa" though when speaking hurriedly or casually and it c= ould
just be implied. =A0Hmm, maybe the real full name of badnydei is
"xarjvectibadnydei" (xanri zei je zei citka zei badna zei djedi,<= br> imagine+and+eat+bananas+day)!

mi'e .telselkik. mu'o

It's not fear= . It's laziness. In /every/ language, the most used words are also the = shortest. Even if we did use those names for the days of the week, it's= a guarantee that they will be shortened really quickly. Weekdays are used = often enough that anything more than three syllables is a waste.

On the other hand, something like "the nail of the big toe", = { brajmadegycalku}, doesn't really come up in conversation very often, = so it's perfectly fine for it to be a long word.

--
mu'o= mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno = be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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