From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhC5xLjlBBoEVR8nEg@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 07 12:40:58 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P3wKk-0005b4-HQ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:40:58 -0700 Received: by gxk9 with SMTP id 9sf152997gxk.16 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:40:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=z4YnK9vuERaixeZJwabBsEJBYMIyI1cXTTGMUvvOgF8=; b=0s4VQMpPAXKYmsZPx560Vjst/l+c5CLxTGuunN0/wI4JRGhUGQhxj4sdih1CDmKW1u ty3iKiIPt1yGS48gUy6Dca9U57ckQyVDKbYKT1ko2yMHcz9st/hCci7O0G/mpYvxtzp+ n4onEPNxoOma05qV87qJr5IM3YYE4xva0ltJ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=n2y9pTOApXv3cQqKu6JYQYoSUAxcjfyvC0f+ebATDTKhdHxS3GXSbogVHrOWfFUgIw EtsPYKaB00dwMpwaLglMadeh49dS6Szc7GVb2zy2E6F3PmfgP2jpxLJ/TKrj5/3kuuED k0zQ4S+h9vbDbr6p2P5hoPNV44kPN+a1qVExk= Received: by 10.90.3.14 with SMTP id 14mr140930agc.3.1286480441911; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:40:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.51.12 with SMTP id d12ls59710agk.4.p; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.95.3 with SMTP id o3mr286482yhf.27.1286480441220; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.95.3 with SMTP id o3mr286481yhf.27.1286480441193; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gx0-f175.google.com (mail-gx0-f175.google.com [209.85.161.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u69si938457yhc.12.2010.10.07.12.40.40; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.175; Received: by gxk25 with SMTP id 25so113620gxk.34 for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:40:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.247.129 with SMTP id mc1mr1168060icb.147.1286480439976; Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Oct 2010 12:40:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20101007173227.GB27477@alice.local> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 13:40:39 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la lojbo kurji From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3005db7ca2a9ec04920c1101 --20cf3005db7ca2a9ec04920c1101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/10/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > 2010/10/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas > >> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:32 PM, .alyn.post. > >> wrote: > >> > >> > .i mi ba tavla fo la lobjan. de'i lo ro djedi > >> > >> "lo ro djedi" is not a date, you want "ca" not "de'i". > >> > >> And "ca ro (lo) djedi", unless you are content to do it at some single > >> point in time valid for all days. > > > > "A side effect of the above is that in xorlo, if you mean "one bear", > > consider actually saying "pa cribe". It's ever so much more specific. > xorxes > > points out that to refer to one bear, "lo pa cribe" is actually a bit > > better; "pa cribe cu broda" means that exactly one cribe in the whole > world > > brodas, which is often not what you want. We (those of us that have > actually > > been using xorlo for the last few months; there are at least half a doz= en > > active users on #lojban now) have found that context is almost always > > sufficient, however." > > Is that supposed to be related to what I was saying? I'm not sure if > you are quoting that as support or as disagreement. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > I was pointing out that you seemed to be disagreeing with yourself. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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2010/10/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas <= ;jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/10/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:32 PM, .alyn.post.
>> <alyn.post@lo= dockikumazvati.org> wrote:
>>
>> > =A0.i mi ba tavla fo la lobjan. de= 9;i lo ro djedi
>>
>> "lo ro djedi" is not a date, you want "ca" not= "de'i".
>>
>> And "ca ro (lo) djedi", unless you are content to do it = at some single
>> point in time valid for all days.
>
> "A side effect of the above is that in xorlo, if you mean "o= ne bear",
> consider actually saying "pa cribe". It's ever so much m= ore specific. xorxes
> points out that to refer to one bear, "lo pa cribe" is actua= lly a bit
> better; "pa cribe cu broda" means that exactly one cribe in = the whole world
> brodas, which is often not what you want. We (those of us that have ac= tually
> been using xorlo for the last few months; there are at least half a do= zen
> active users on #lojban now) have found that context is almost always<= br> > sufficient, however."

Is that supposed to be related to what I was saying? I'm not sure= if
you are quoting that as support or as disagreement.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

I was pointing out tha= t you seemed to be disagreeing with yourself.

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m= u'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo= pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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