From lojban+bncCJbznvHdFRCHtrvlBBoE0CiKqg@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 01:49:27 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P48dn-0002yc-LT; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:27 -0700 Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17sf137086fxm.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=+1htG6Ik4jI4PtyAGmnzQa+Ze8V2iXv6rldJiBW9wwk=; b=VY2+R81NtwkwP+Y/Qv9xRstOA3uQrAgnIaTxAFiHv5dIQiy0iZkNh9TQzWEN3oFxHK 71H1YXs7xZsh7FwF+gVcleWdfC9lVoaE7l9eXP+nGD69ag+su4vOkLu1UPZKv34AyHZ6 tiJDzuinF5bC0wENoG/BgfR/C0hoTFsdvbUtw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=LpfpZFgO/3GfIjDAcs+ZIfhjdaaPgVAhxT/DgTGuhDnuQFZmYXOrs5ZwpYM9ISZ56S fuIvogCbACgvRykFo19ZDBsVoqoZXsjCF8py8/N82jClUYzrFhc1YNgA7f/Ed+qYEclI lKox650GDm+Yo1WARp/HpgM156NjBOpzCQ+YM= Received: by 10.223.70.141 with SMTP id d13mr25809faj.5.1286527751189; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.26.6 with SMTP id b6ls301332fac.1.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.115.130 with SMTP id i2mr85637faq.13.1286527750051; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.115.130 with SMTP id i2mr85636faq.13.1286527749994; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com (mail-fx0-f41.google.com [209.85.161.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l25si859023fam.8.2010.10.08.01.49.08; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.41; Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10so553164fxm.14 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.142.83 with SMTP id f19mr124201hba.82.1286527748245; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:49:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.155.133 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 01:48:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: MorphemeAddict Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 04:48:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmavo and the gismu like them To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f036626d89a90492171526 --001485f036626d89a90492171526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 {mo'a} is a rafsi for {morna}. mo'a too few digit/number: too few; subjective The following four gismu have the letters m-o-a in that order: mokca 'point' x1 is a point/instant/moment [0-dimensional shape/form] in/on/at time/place x2 mosra 'friction' x1 is friction [force opposing motion] due to contact/rubbing between x2 and x3 morna 'pattern' x1 is/reflects/represents a pattern of forms/events x2 arranged according to structure x3 smoka 'sock' x1 is a sock/stocking [flexible foot and lower leg garment] of material x2 stevo On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > I just noticed that the word for "too many" is {du'e} and thought "Oh, like > dukse. That'll be helpful for remembering {du'e}. neat-o". > > Unfortunately, to a new user whose trying to learn all the cmavo there > seems to be no link between the many cmavo and the gismu that are similar to > them. For instance, I feel confident that I'll now be able to remember > {du'e} because I know the gismu dukse and that's enough of a mental prod for > me to get to du'e. > > But what about {mo'a}? There are no rafsi of that form, but that doesn't > mean that there are no gismu that look like it. And I haven't been able to > find a list or anything that makes all these similarities easy to find. > > So, two questions. > > pamai Are there any gismu from which {mo'a} "originates" like dukse ~= du'e > that could aid me in remembering it? > remai Is there a list in existence for pairing these gismu~=cmavo to make > the lives of nintadni easier? > repimumai If not, whose up for a little project? > > mu'o mi'e cribe > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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{m= o'a} is a rafsi for {morna}.
=A0
mo'a=A0 too few digit/number: too few; subjective=
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The following four gismu have the letters m-o-a in that order:=
=A0
mokca 'point' x1 is a= point/instant/moment [0-dimensional shape/form] in/on/at time/place x2
=A0
mosra 'friction' x1 is friction [force opposing motion] = due to contact/rubbing between x2 and x3
=A0
morna 'pattern' x1 is= /reflects/represents a pattern of forms/events x2 arranged according to str= ucture x3
=A0
smoka 'sock' x1 is a sock/stocking [flexible foot and lo= wer leg garment] of material x2
=A0
stevo

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gma= il.com> wrote:
I just noticed that the word for= "too many" is {du'e} and thought "Oh, like dukse. =A0Th= at'll be helpful for remembering {du'e}. =A0neat-o". =A0=20

Unfortunately, to a new user whose trying to learn all the cmavo there= seems to be no link between the many cmavo and the gismu that are similar = to them. =A0For instance, I feel confident that I'll now be able to rem= ember {du'e} because I know the gismu dukse and that's enough of a = mental prod for me to get to du'e. =A0

But what about {mo'a}? =A0There are no rafsi of that form, but tha= t doesn't mean that there are no gismu that look like it. =A0And I have= n't been able to find a list or anything that makes all these similarit= ies easy to find.

So, two questions. =A0

pamai Are there any gismu from which {mo'a} "originates"= like dukse ~=3D du'e that could aid me in remembering it?
remai =A0Is there a list in existence for pairing these gismu~=3Dcmavo= to make the lives of nintadni easier?
repimumai If not, whose up for a little project?

mu'o mi'e cribe

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