From lojban+bncCJXwn4e6DRDIgr3lBBoErY-FOg@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 09:05:46 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4FS1-0002tI-Pu; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:05:46 -0700 Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17sf243312fxm.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:05:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zhW3mZdZ+HsUszjGMD14JcXQ2+BRs7AdiQ9Wp6elcLQ=; b=0AwDS2e9DGz8YuB3qSZ5jAVm4PdSVc806NEgNFiwBksiOy09oEyTL6gyWRp7f23PpR x0cvwpb5ZLKhdp+xU4hgoj396rOAJeQ436nVHLKbmkEkaSNR6TDJWRn935sYXttHbWjQ b+9pOCX2w46Rg5wCBYWJONiHegQgkgFuFtpiI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ad2ZJuXer5ySmLLQmAFBWk0775kIMiIjl4NytBNvMchLUgfT4bLOUBXZTzpbRrroix th37+xv2sQ9Sv/Uas2zcPYY/xZpApFEhiRCAG6pfHTZjWczpT108pAO3+UPgdK6A9o0H IGARJyBX+tKx/YeOrbzVGjCKeGwKiK1uWEl/4= Received: by 10.223.14.211 with SMTP id h19mr116040faa.1.1286553928673; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:05:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.48.209 with SMTP id s17ls439054bkf.2.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.82.140 with SMTP id b12mr56695bkl.5.1286553927148; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.82.140 with SMTP id b12mr56693bkl.5.1286553927104; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com (mail-fx0-f41.google.com [209.85.161.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p18si1926616bkb.4.2010.10.08.09.05.25; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of adamlopresto@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.41; Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10so806475fxm.28 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.169.65 with SMTP id n1mr197431hbe.69.1286553925206; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:05:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.186.196 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 09:05:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Adam Lopresto Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 11:05:05 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmavo and the gismu like them To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: adamlopresto@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of adamlopresto@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=adamlopresto@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636498aa3b244fb04921d2d99 --001636498aa3b244fb04921d2d99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.lojban.org/tiki/cmavo+mnemonics see also http://lojban.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=gismu+mnemonics On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > I just noticed that the word for "too many" is {du'e} and thought "Oh, like > dukse. That'll be helpful for remembering {du'e}. neat-o". > > Unfortunately, to a new user whose trying to learn all the cmavo there > seems to be no link between the many cmavo and the gismu that are similar to > them. For instance, I feel confident that I'll now be able to remember > {du'e} because I know the gismu dukse and that's enough of a mental prod for > me to get to du'e. > > But what about {mo'a}? There are no rafsi of that form, but that doesn't > mean that there are no gismu that look like it. And I haven't been able to > find a list or anything that makes all these similarities easy to find. > > So, two questions. > > pamai Are there any gismu from which {mo'a} "originates" like dukse ~= du'e > that could aid me in remembering it? > remai Is there a list in existence for pairing these gismu~=cmavo to make > the lives of nintadni easier? > repimumai If not, whose up for a little project? > > mu'o mi'e cribe > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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see also

http://lojban.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3Dgismu+mnemonics

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Luke Bergen= <lukeabergen= @gmail.com> wrote:
I just noticed that the word for "too many" is {du'e} and tho= ught "Oh, like dukse. =A0That'll be helpful for remembering {du= 9;e}. =A0neat-o". =A0

Unfortunately, to a new user = whose trying to learn all the cmavo there seems to be no link between the m= any cmavo and the gismu that are similar to them. =A0For instance, I feel c= onfident that I'll now be able to remember {du'e} because I know th= e gismu dukse and that's enough of a mental prod for me to get to du= 9;e. =A0

But what about {mo'a}? =A0There are no rafsi of tha= t form, but that doesn't mean that there are no gismu that look like it= . =A0And I haven't been able to find a list or anything that makes all = these similarities easy to find.

So, two questions. =A0

pamai A= re there any gismu from which {mo'a} "originates" like dukse = ~=3D du'e that could aid me in remembering it?
remai =A0Is th= ere a list in existence for pairing these gismu~=3Dcmavo to make the lives = of nintadni easier?
repimumai If not, whose up for a little project?

<= div>mu'o mi'e cribe

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