From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxDBsqHlBBoEluGTBA@googlegroups.com Sun Oct 03 03:22:09 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P2Lhl-0006IG-VB; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:22:08 -0700 Received: by qyk29 with SMTP id 29sf1535779qyk.16 for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:22:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5nLKPLWlfrRlImy0fm6YGhy/J36KCbzHRqQ7ephsU1M=; b=f1QCDj6Zmi9EGLBVqNy5vJu6GpljOG8MSJg5Cd76blEHScvE8HTVoNiqRYrzzhFPmx u6yDHdXROYf1TZlMbXF0dmEb3NEjtegr42nObTwLIxjSWPMDW6WccTjAlmlVGPk9EX6R 3uCGiKA2dEO9pe7H24mARSnhxMljsC4TcLraY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=fB9XfmOCGmhhsTgYj7wlEOURE4MR22fjhhuHd+gdnK0a9fb/mrN1BKXP90uBK4JdG8 n5JrGHhDEBhmJHHqptRzcCS/NSAe8k8itW6+cSBcOiaJ2qwfHEnA4NaggpaCmOVNZH3N cOXuIHYg5tn+PtzP+AEBzej9H0JlWLC4pdtHE= Received: by 10.229.2.73 with SMTP id 9mr580711qci.1.1286101313461; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:21:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.26.69 with SMTP id d5ls1149199qac.7.p; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.29.16 with SMTP id o16mr1918354qac.4.1286101312565; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.29.16 with SMTP id o16mr1918353qac.4.1286101312536; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x2si1975105qcq.11.2010.10.03.03.21.51; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.175; Received: by mail-qy0-f175.google.com with SMTP id 8so1533210qyk.13 for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:21:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.52.3 with SMTP id f3mr5661828qcg.230.1286101311110; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.101.199 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Oct 2010 03:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 12:21:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Decorations From: Remo Dentato To: lojban X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I need to translate "the worst Halloween decorations". The first point is to translate "halloween", let's opt for just translittering the name: {la .alouin.} Then, "worst" is {xlarai} and "decoration" is {jadni}. {le xlarai jadni pe la .alouin.} would be the simplest way if I can consider {pe} as "related to" and not strictly as a possessive. If I introduce a fu'ivla (which I don't like) or translate Halloween with {mronunsla} (celebration of deaths, which is the original meaning) I could write something like: {le xlarai jadni be lo mronunsla} Do you think it would work? Do you have other suggestions? Remo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.