From lojban+bncCICntNPQBRCxvr3lBBoE5ncRlQ@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 11:13:20 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4HRV-0000vX-BV; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:13:20 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf1187330gwb.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:13:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=M3EYEXs9r6l4mpnv5URvqfO5551kdkibtn1Q4xphKy4=; b=WsFBCJHX/lwuLixyizSXst2Gnhe4ZTOfH9CUJZrKko4MqYaTeEupU2NEfEoEVsbE6E q4AdAj9iiWQozpM6c4ROflftnPBsNDYD57gZcgTxIffTeQj6HMSk1Ypxk4jTcQS2yag/ +0c+jPMFclGnh9dt+UjFSdB4eS7hg7jGcXN0M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=O7tZzmQV6NOkAOmaGfavFWVEQy7NqSB0kjCux+MtldY/zCjxfui/zdzGkb11YiU2fx cVQr65iUGTtQz/hJ21SQkIXczFeti3BaSWVk+JOaLp6+vr3bzqBmxoNV349MVhQZdIhN BGfZH4vUfdq3cxpHsbaZdw/lohDutwfshQskI= Received: by 10.101.162.8 with SMTP id p8mr29423ano.50.1286561585288; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:13:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.12.15 with SMTP id 15ls198600anl.4.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:13:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.93.3 with SMTP id v3mr30136anl.3.1286561584412; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 28g2000yqm.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 11:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 11:13:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 166.190.2.183 References: <20101008173130.GA29534@alice.local> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.10) Gecko/20100915 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.10,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: You're Doing it Wrong From: Lindar To: lojban X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Additionally, we're all human with lives of our own. As much as I love the language and teaching it, I'm riding the line of homelessness on a regular basis and trying to survive in a very harsh environment. The reason the CLL hasn't been updated is because we've had other (more important) things to do. It's very much the least of our concerns, especially as it isn't meant to be teaching material (it's meant to specify and outline the language, hence 'reference grammar'). Currently we (the BPFK) are busy with http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Sections trying to completely and accurately define every word in the language. When this gets done, then we have a dictionary project to work on (the language will not be unfrozen until we publish the dictionary). So we need to accurately define everything we currently have in the language (and decide on what changes to the languages should be made official and how any issues can be resolved), then we need to generate enough vocabulary to fill an English-Lojban dictionary, THEN we need to work on the CLL2, THEN we need to work on a new content management system to replace jbovlaste, THEN we have a million other things to do after that. So, really, get on IRC and talk to us. We'll be glad to teach you stuff. You can call or text/e-mail/skype me ( +1(213)308-2590, lindarthebard at yahoo dot com, lindarthebard) any time you like and I will answer as soon as I possibly can. Your best bet is to get on FreeNode and come to our IRC channel ( irc://irc.freenode.net/lojban ). We love to teach, we'll help you with any problems you may have, we won't throw books at you, there's a 65-70% chance that at any given moment there are at least three people willing to give you a lesson on the spot. tl;dr shit sucks. you fix it, we're busy. I look forward to meeting you on IRC. <3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.