From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDswr3lBBoE66D4mw@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 11:22:51 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Hai-0001QQ-9B; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:22:51 -0700 Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10sf327292qyk.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=l9FE4zqKx+qcj+mWlVCgfyBGRSkiAoct9ehf/PfHHnA=; b=Aco3cgFQISvbfTx+T7YwjPRkvey5XCu0AiQaUuG8Ihke7APyALCVQWY8kzWPvYPSHf 7PSbLCS6VZr3M/yxj+TqxOmMU1c73kcH1eV0dZTRe9A66wH0aP+YbldgyzlinAg8+DQP gLf+zJbmLTHi+LYLaxFhusVrdaVLTwTZ/fWCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=cV+Dy8h8dy3VJv78nZwmxI1MvHHZTX1tiGkADoL7C/66l455WCuAMDjLnOErsqbr3m 40XH0/G2/er4w/KPCzLyPhArzPcFXxaHCa7+kKbS+a/t73SD3cUZPhCXShTQGlNZlNit YaZTYDk7FrFdXrFaujAln6FaGfyWS/GNncIZM= Received: by 10.229.130.158 with SMTP id t30mr154779qcs.1.1286562156778; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:22:36 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.207.84 with SMTP id fx20ls96842qcb.0.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.222.19 with SMTP id ie19mr374794qcb.29.1286562156229; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.222.19 with SMTP id ie19mr374793qcb.29.1286562156200; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:22:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f53.google.com (mail-qw0-f53.google.com [209.85.216.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 2si1497021qci.10.2010.10.08.11.22.35; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.53; Received: by qwe5 with SMTP id 5so1000563qwe.40 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:22:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.229.195 with SMTP id jj3mr2288251qcb.239.1286562154893; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 11:22:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:22:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmavo and the gismu like them From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485eaffc039530a04921f1895 --001485eaffc039530a04921f1895 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 mi palku tarmi galfi prami do .u'i zo'o On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Adam Lopresto wrote: > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/cmavo+mnemonics > > see also > > http://lojban.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=gismu+mnemonics > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > >> I just noticed that the word for "too many" is {du'e} and thought "Oh, >> like dukse. That'll be helpful for remembering {du'e}. neat-o". >> >> Unfortunately, to a new user whose trying to learn all the cmavo there >> seems to be no link between the many cmavo and the gismu that are similar to >> them. For instance, I feel confident that I'll now be able to remember >> {du'e} because I know the gismu dukse and that's enough of a mental prod for >> me to get to du'e. >> >> But what about {mo'a}? There are no rafsi of that form, but that doesn't >> mean that there are no gismu that look like it. And I haven't been able to >> find a list or anything that makes all these similarities easy to find. >> >> So, two questions. >> >> pamai Are there any gismu from which {mo'a} "originates" like dukse ~= >> du'e that could aid me in remembering it? >> remai Is there a list in existence for pairing these gismu~=cmavo to make >> the lives of nintadni easier? >> repimumai If not, whose up for a little project? >> >> mu'o mi'e cribe >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Adam Lopresto <= ;adamlopresto@gmail.com> wrote:

see also

http:= //lojban.com/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3Dgismu+mnemonics

On Thu, Oc= t 7, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
I just noticed that the word for "too many" is {du'e} and tho= ught "Oh, like dukse. =A0That'll be helpful for remembering {du= 9;e}. =A0neat-o". =A0

Unfortunately, to a new user = whose trying to learn all the cmavo there seems to be no link between the m= any cmavo and the gismu that are similar to them. =A0For instance, I feel c= onfident that I'll now be able to remember {du'e} because I know th= e gismu dukse and that's enough of a mental prod for me to get to du= 9;e. =A0

But what about {mo'a}? =A0There are no rafsi of tha= t form, but that doesn't mean that there are no gismu that look like it= . =A0And I haven't been able to find a list or anything that makes all = these similarities easy to find.

So, two questions. =A0

pamai A= re there any gismu from which {mo'a} "originates" like dukse = ~=3D du'e that could aid me in remembering it?
remai =A0Is th= ere a list in existence for pairing these gismu~=3Dcmavo to make the lives = of nintadni easier?
repimumai If not, whose up for a little project?

<= div>mu'o mi'e cribe

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