From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCy0aHlBBoEoiOM-Q@googlegroups.com Sun Oct 03 04:28:04 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P2MjW-0002qc-Md; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 04:28:04 -0700 Received: by pvc7 with SMTP id 7sf2949431pvc.16 for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 04:27:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=c7n2w0JwmzqfvES2VxBvGw+Y6imxYeBvUU7iwDtxahc=; b=nJO/yIvv+NaBp35cg/ExGkWY1hvQ79jiNGMQa14UWEafgdo/L2a9dtQws2VPsPN0RF ZjS5yY6qhbRzdbegweKj1KXrC36sxEZqkEf8C/suJz7hWgbx/CqJsEc8HHXB/rcwxVUo dDwP//Er/emEB+nyFXS+ZR2v3kYnY5emmN4oU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=KyXnMmlr9k/hnliJhW3pXTW6Zf7Eo/lqx3IqanKJC1oC2soUfU6wdwukxcRkchPg4A Bn2vEYcXkH56ol9DJg7wsCC6Y89AGDZ7dOwP9fllYNwWUWdnW4mXJAK0faqDUnVcUBTO pQO/Sw5ONqhehdOlS0AIHbz3Mxk4m3s4SoYXk= Received: by 10.115.81.16 with SMTP id i16mr102484wal.1.1286105266246; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 04:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.67.12 with SMTP id u12ls4284946wak.3.p; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 04:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.37.2 with SMTP id k2mr3631334wak.44.1286105264071; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 04:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.37.2 with SMTP id k2mr3631333wak.44.1286105264047; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 04:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d12si4164473wam.3.2010.10.03.04.27.43; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 04:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=R3xZCyK5Rzzq4RgmEA8QIQ3hFZTdsD3z+kRPUs1QTwQ= c=1 sm=0 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=T4vRfKPZS3lcP3jwopIA:9 a=xyG1QtitJi85OrmK4S8A:7 a=bKKczCRDjiL_rt58Y3ZDDHTS39IA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:37648] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 11/14-06710-FA868AC4; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:27:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07606193 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 2010 07:27:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Decorations Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 07:27:39 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010030727.40439.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 03 October 2010 06:21:51 Remo Dentato wrote: > I need to translate "the worst Halloween decorations". > > The first point is to translate "halloween", let's opt for just > translittering the name: {la .alouin.} > Then, "worst" is {xlarai} and "decoration" is {jadni}. > > {le xlarai jadni pe la .alouin.} > > would be the simplest way if I can consider {pe} as "related to" and > not strictly as a possessive. "pe la .alouin" is modifying "le xlarai jadni". I understand that, in the English, "worst" is modifying "Halloween decorations". To do the same in Lojban, I'd say "le xlarai ke me la .alouin. jadni". Another possible parse of the English is that "worst" modifies "Halloween", in which case just remove the "ke". Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.