From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCWsb7lBBoEphn93w@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 15:18:16 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4LGU-0005xA-EZ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:18:16 -0700 Received: by ywo7 with SMTP id 7sf697387ywo.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:18:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=p++QRc3L3YD+QO8UjmdFqjbjTEEZUsT5SOsL1Lut50I=; b=w245mpGAlImBbLhNO3TdcVP4FhGPNxkyxmwg3bmVgmT3H8wuMs3mXs7r39N7jXjQeT P0zhJ6zxgpnUy2bQR/XyY0/Q8bw47hGeXa8KiB92MJ17WfQ1qOG5e/hWxZckDO/mFDM1 o2Hk0IJvkQ+81r74qtDEjGeBbFAKErlg7VAqc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=2riWj9HPtbX/TmT89rLcYFWQLcA9zuFvr5r3nogSID2V6wvFwi3tR7dxZCfd23W0Ez vgmhEAcEnED5iD46p9V95CohaVeskYuOUFL6IKJ53DR5LGxzsmkoHgbpgJ5uL2G5O4lB bugPi+7rPOHajJ9LCEoZhGlgbdESE1Tk/hy8M= Received: by 10.91.103.11 with SMTP id f11mr273975agm.25.1286576278289; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:17:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls681093ibg.3.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.10.132 with SMTP id p4mr876013ibp.1.1286576277691; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.10.132 with SMTP id p4mr876012ibp.1.1286576277656; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f179.google.com (mail-iw0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e4si2460602ibc.0.2010.10.08.15.17.56; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.179; Received: by mail-iw0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 41so248230iwn.24 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:17:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.36.77 with SMTP id s13mr2744684ibd.190.1286576272539; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 15:17:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:17:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Learning cmavo From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d5d65b41e8b04922261a1 --0022152d5d65b41e8b04922261a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: > I'm having a lot of difficulties to remember all those cmavo and their > usage. > Since I'm a rather "visual" person, I'm trying to create reference > material that I can use to memorize them. I found the flashcard > approach a little bit boring and I can't concentrate enough while > using Smart.fm and similar tools. > > Some of you might remember one attempt of mine on the time/space > cmavo: http://jbotcan.org/ideas/src/1254854442265.pdf > (that was intended to be printed on the two sides of an A4 sheet and > then folded as a booklet). > > I've now tried a different approach creating a "periodic table of > pro-sumti and pro-bridi": > http://jbotcan.org/ideas/src/1286574078318.pdf > should it prove useful I'll try with other periodic tables (e.g. the > table of modals!). > > Different people learn using different strategies and what is a good > visual representation for me, could be completely misleading for > others! > So this may or may not be helpful for you. I just post it in case > someone alse might benefit of it. > > Suggestions, corrections and feedback are always very welcome. > > remo.d > It's interesting. Due to the nature of the presentation, I don't think na pdf is the right format, unless you are capable of changing the page size. Even then, I'd opt for a high-res png, or other picture format. Why do you have {ti ta tu} but not {vi va vu}? Why are it-6 to it-10 {fo'a - fo'u} above it-1 to it-5 {ko'a - ko'u}? I thought {du} was a pro-bridi? -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0022152d5d65b41e8b04922261a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com= > wrote:
I'm having a lot of difficulties to remember all those cmavo and their = usage.
Since I'm a rather "visual" person, I'm trying to create = reference
material that I can use to memorize them. I found the flashcard
approach a little bit boring and I can't concentrate enough while
using Smart.fm and similar tools.

Some of you might remember one attempt of mine on the time/space
cmavo: http://jbotcan.org/ideas/src/1254854442265.pdf
=A0(that was intended to be printed on the two sides of an A4 sheet and
then folded as a booklet).

I've now tried a different approach creating a "periodic table of<= br> pro-sumti and pro-bridi":
http://jbotcan.org/ideas/src/1286574078318.pdf
should it prove useful I'll try with other periodic tables (e.g. the table of modals!).

Different people learn using different strategies and what is a good
visual representation for me, could be completely misleading for
others!
So this may or may not be helpful for you. I just post it in case
someone alse might benefit of it.

Suggestions, corrections and feedback are always very welcome.

remo.d

It's interesting. Due to= the nature of the presentation, I don't think na pdf is the right form= at, unless you are capable of changing the page size. Even then, I'd op= t for a high-res png, or other picture format.

Why do you have {ti ta tu} but not {vi va vu}?

Why are it-6 to i= t-10 {fo'a - fo'u} above it-1 to it-5 {ko'a - ko'u}?
I thought {du} was a pro-bridi?

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk= . mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D= )

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