From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCNwr7lBBoEQXdZeQ@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 15:54:20 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4LpR-0000Iu-CV; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:20 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf1483224gwb.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jhGVj2EytLoT7LkjFKD2M0GU1T7h16aczdJ1To282rA=; b=d+GmuqsEjccN3S8qzvxbFj0HY6J9dejw/JNcO8vOWsANPsDdM5fo8dwTxDZU7jX174 QeyEPGHjAHpBolhHxD3xK7bUTdg8RwaB0L4VxgYN9gMLUmyv4d9vCBUFyIb0/EqRwBUS 1574mlq4vgbQ19kROGZG99VAcNfSX7FpRgS7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=MnSxBUAMBBfu3glkv8Pzn8U2qqM9fXhGr9sPcvmZdS/q1E3Yq3Lja4rhjC0OTUA7vU E24su2f+I6bp5iXkSgkAZmkWqHhIOZjrUxt9oGMBU6KSU3KhRMghf8LG2RPlr6L+e4w2 kC0YWaox9cnZB3MnlldJcxN7gkxiNVRy9zD44= Received: by 10.91.159.11 with SMTP id l11mr270750ago.54.1286578445770; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.180.73 with SMTP id bt9ls620694ibb.0.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.77 with SMTP id o13mr873402ibd.3.1286578444859; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.77 with SMTP id o13mr873401ibd.3.1286578444813; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f173.google.com (mail-iw0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bm7si2340918ibb.6.2010.10.08.15.54.03; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by mail-iw0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 38so110061iwn.18 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.15.203 with SMTP id l11mr2785805iba.182.1286578443465; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 15:54:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:54:03 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Learning cmavo From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002215046c8f19332b049222e395 --002215046c8f19332b049222e395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > > It's interesting. Due to the nature of the presentation, I don't think na > > pdf is the right format, unless you are capable of changing the page > size. > > Even then, I'd opt for a high-res png, or other picture format. > > You could scale and print that PDF on a A3 sheet or even larger and > you should not notice any scaling effect. I can surely produce a png > for that but that would be much bigger and not better resolution-wise. > Well, I meant for people like me who prefer the digital version. (I like trees. Printing means using paper. Using paper means less trees.) Then again, the best format for use is probably html.... > > Why do you have {ti ta tu} but not {vi va vu}? > My understanding is that {vi} {va} and {vu} are space/time cmavo and > are not valid as pro-sumti. When we say {le vi plise}, I'm really > saying "the apple that is here close to me" rather than "this apple". > Am I wrong? > > > Why are it-6 to it-10 {fo'a - fo'u} above it-1 to it-5 {ko'a - ko'u}? > No specific reason, I can easily swap them. > > > I thought {du} was a pro-bridi? > I'm not sure. I initially hadn't it at all, I probably should > understand it better. I know see it as just meaning "is the same of". > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's interesting. Due to the nature of the presentation, I don'= ;t think na
> pdf is the right format, unless you are capable of changing the page s= ize.
> Even then, I'd opt for a high-res png, or other picture format.
You could scale and print that PDF on a A3 sheet or even larger and you should not notice any scaling effect. I can surely produce a png
for that but that would be much bigger and not better resolution-wise.
<= /blockquote>

Well, I meant for people like me who prefer the digita= l version. (I like trees. Printing means using paper. Using paper means les= s trees.)

Then again, the best format for use is probably html....
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> Why do you have {ti ta tu} but not {vi va vu}?
My understanding is that {vi} {va} and {vu} are space/time cmavo and<= br> are not valid as pro-sumti. When we say {le vi plise}, I'm really
saying "the apple that is here close to me" rather than "thi= s apple".
Am I wrong?

> Why are it-6 to it-10 {fo'a - fo'u} above it-1 to it-5 {ko'= ;a - ko'u}?
No specific reason, I can easily swap them.

> I thought {du} was a pro-bridi?
I'm not sure. I initially hadn't it at all, I probably should=
understand it better. I know see it as just meaning "is the same of&qu= ot;.

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