From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCrwr7lBBoEPSfpFg@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 15:54:49 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Lpu-0000KJ-LD; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:49 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf1500618gya.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=2MDMDDzlhrfPt9sEAtsBG6j0T7TbUzOS5bn4ksAPJYY=; b=LFcMA8sKYfzvIoMX8AXw92B/MmZX60mx1fAXMcSZRf3Vqee1bEXh4D3SNWqIBPRNaa TjciQ5spEH4oQ/Cd/FFeq/pgJQ2AiEe9BHJ0YPksPmq9vzVL1ipwbZLLQ8Zho6PSB653 hyab5qDP9kVZ8Eq8qikrOP5cCjnCoYgIVGUk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=bkNz8EGzwgpJAsuE1sRwyO3HInALYH/9ZzQbCzWiIPXw9OikaAlUm8OYuO25TQViU5 Tgx6qBybTNaUZeumjQZWRDTcLR4nETZPR9jKcp1WJEGQQGrG/y0r8xQAogds0ai64oeP Q79vCvYIAPRSgCXbZ/dxn/KABvRQGFhC0YnQQ= Received: by 10.90.19.26 with SMTP id 26mr270759ags.45.1286578475077; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls690545ibg.3.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.140 with SMTP id t12mr943235ibd.4.1286578474695; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.140 with SMTP id t12mr943234ibd.4.1286578474670; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f175.google.com (mail-iw0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id cm31si2474561ibb.7.2010.10.08.15.54.33; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.175; Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so222250iwn.20 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.11.130 with SMTP id t2mr2885593ibt.154.1286578473280; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.16 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 15:54:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 16:54:33 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Learning cmavo From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555713ae0266a049222e437 --00032555713ae0266a049222e437 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> > >> > It's interesting. Due to the nature of the presentation, I don't think >> na >> > pdf is the right format, unless you are capable of changing the page >> size. >> > Even then, I'd opt for a high-res png, or other picture format. >> >> You could scale and print that PDF on a A3 sheet or even larger and >> you should not notice any scaling effect. I can surely produce a png >> for that but that would be much bigger and not better resolution-wise. >> > > Well, I meant for people like me who prefer the digital version. (I like > trees. Printing means using paper. Using paper means less trees.) > > Then again, the best format for use is probably html.... > for us. not for use. ug. Stupid keyboards.... > > >> > Why do you have {ti ta tu} but not {vi va vu}? >> My understanding is that {vi} {va} and {vu} are space/time cmavo and >> are not valid as pro-sumti. When we say {le vi plise}, I'm really >> saying "the apple that is here close to me" rather than "this apple". >> Am I wrong? >> >> > Why are it-6 to it-10 {fo'a - fo'u} above it-1 to it-5 {ko'a - ko'u}? >> No specific reason, I can easily swap them. >> >> > I thought {du} was a pro-bridi? >> I'm not sure. I initially hadn't it at all, I probably should >> understand it better. I know see it as just meaning "is the same of". >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu > do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00032555713ae0266a049222e437 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Jonathan= Jones <eyeonus@g= mail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:29 PM= , Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's interesting. Due to the nature of the presentation, I don'= ;t think na
> pdf is the right format, unless you are capable of changing the page s= ize.
> Even then, I'd opt for a high-res png, or other picture format.
You could scale and print that PDF on a A3 sheet or even larger and you should not notice any scaling effect. I can surely produce a png
for that but that would be much bigger and not better resolution-wise.
<= /blockquote>

Well, I meant for people like me who prefer the = digital version. (I like trees. Printing means using paper. Using paper mea= ns less trees.)

Then again, the best format for use is probably html....

for us. not for use. ug. Stupid keyboards....
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> Why do you have {ti ta tu} but not {vi va vu}?
My understanding is that {vi} {va} and {vu} are space/time cmavo and<= br> are not valid as pro-sumti. When we say {le vi plise}, I'm really
saying "the apple that is here close to me" rather than "thi= s apple".
Am I wrong?

> Why are it-6 to it-10 {fo'a - fo'u} above it-1 to it-5 {ko'= ;a - ko'u}?
No specific reason, I can easily swap them.

> I thought {du} was a pro-bridi?
I'm not sure. I initially hadn't it at all, I probably should=
understand it better. I know see it as just meaning "is the same of&qu= ot;.

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(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )




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