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PIEKARSKI" Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: You're Doing it Wrong To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: totus@rogers.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.142.237.93 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of totus@rogers.com) smtp.mail=totus@rogers.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@rogers.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >ta'o=20 >totus, I'm stuck at 3. I've been using quizlet and have actually gotten th= e=20 >first 500 gismu (ordered by popularity) down pretty solidly but I've recen= tly=20 >hit a wall with words that just don't seem as useful. =A0How many gismu di= d you=20 >learn before you said "ok, enough, any more gismu I will just learn on a= =20 >need-to-know basis"? > > First of all, you need to understand that my lojban is lousy and I have no= =20 talent for languages=A0and a very poor memory- I'm not a good role model.= =A0=20 But this is what I do. 1) I study the gismu in Learn model endlessly until I get them all correct 2) I then go to the equivalent Quizlet rafsi and do the same 3) Occasionally I go back to to the the first ones I learned - to confirm t= hat=20 I have indeed forgotten most of them 4) But brute force works a bit.=A0 I do remember many of them Currently I'm at the end of the final 50 of 's'. Hope this helps. totus --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.