From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDW077lBBoEqzUx3A@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 16:31:49 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4MPi-0002q9-Ku; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:31:49 -0700 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7sf851130pzk.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:31:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=l9Sjh5E8F3qKt8yRvt2LPPhd38OQ7mMuKQRboe98IjY=; b=ti/3a0mynYlh8qVLMt1nU10z2QrakUPLcaNIGhcaSOaEwfnPNtSWURg+e7rtbgQ7ag oW7xoyS5ImpGCkHlR7dtPQNYvXQwANs43HEr8c4qXFqWoZSj2bFuNMCYCfTGCs/VQIgb TyuiWsFYismLtpzkhaXmePdmEu2qjLQglNMJ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :message-id:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=OiKJEMfjLeevgVZiefP3rzimYnMWbwcvG0YEZYS6C9nf7F/XqDVq8aq9JYgRhinseF UV2/ydeEFepgwnNgqQD0q+bRdCzcjaYZwmoPsBvmbFOEpp6b3s1TBn5oc/+urMY3TwMv Jr9p7Ponpa4FrLb252/sNH6SqcPUp0Bc2jg5o= Received: by 10.115.36.14 with SMTP id o14mr308488waj.12.1286580694643; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:31:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.98.7 with SMTP id a7ls1217213wam.3.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.109.6 with SMTP id l6mr1049054wam.14.1286580694087; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.109.6 with SMTP id l6mr1049053wam.14.1286580694062; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id f17si1817736waf.3.2010.10.08.16.31.33; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=lu/RhtYP0ChAeUxMEPBris12a71TWT5f9yvo3GNwP9w= c=1 sm=0 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=MR9AG9xZTGCzogoDercA:9 a=sL1EywFgBrSZEBeEpc3vCJW-f1cA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:60132] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CC/73-14228-5D9AFAC4; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:31:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7342724 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:31:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban Subject: [lojban] soi Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:31:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010081931.29131.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Just checking the grammar, I find that 1) a soi-phrase is the same kind of free modifier as a sei-clause, 2) "soi" can itself be followed by a free modifier, and 3) "soi" can be followed by one or two sumti. So the following sentences are grammatically correct: .i soi xi re li pai li te'o mi klama le zarci .i mi simtavla do soi soi le tirxu le cinfo do mi .i mi klama le zarci soi do What do such constructions mean? Pierre -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.