From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRD8oL_lBBoEdO1PBQ@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 19:16:45 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4OzJ-0002ZO-DO; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:16:45 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf385955wwe.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:16:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VTxinQGVHG7H0Rw/ZNfISGUystLo9MzQq6uMR2TCXQc=; b=ZMfX1zVo6kEz6mrXiftVr+Vd7J78OuetOO0Lq3zPBygpwZhSgDl/3kKVUp7Ig7+uKY JYfN7yb1aQ8B+XlDgiWPgMJ9edwx81oZq2lnCLaRhl6opkLULJ1jTilOPeDAwYnU1wq9 HEap4E76H/mzXQGf80f9VR2O62rqTBJZ31wrc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f/YF05/FSxNYl8yvGDCNjyC+FtjKlXQIiKQ+s6+2RVW2QRWoIrMv1UAQ1g7TobcHxj 2ZAAzNAXRhVjpU39UZ1iAwDmo+BmIGRTqgy2WLTQsJ82r//eHR9y31zJgDMFNotJBaP+ 84s8O1+2lq9bdKOq6amy837OkC7Kq7H4hl3XQ= Received: by 10.216.237.9 with SMTP id x9mr382416weq.11.1286590588553; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:16:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.3.19 with SMTP id 19ls563648wbl.3.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.3.21 with SMTP id 21mr141775wbl.1.1286590586704; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.3.21 with SMTP id 21mr141774wbl.1.1286590586677; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com (mail-ww0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ey20si1602209wbb.6.2010.10.08.19.16.25; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.47; Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so1960268wwf.28 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:16:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.72.213 with SMTP id n21mr3137687wbj.66.1286590585085; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:16:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CAFCD2C.4090100@lojban.org> References: <4CAFCD2C.4090100@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 23:16:25 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmavo and the gismu like them From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Robert LeChevalier wro= te: > > I used pe'i, BTW, because all of the good words that could be tied to jin= vi > were already assigned. =A0Yes, it is probably malglico, but it probably c= an > still be mnemonically useful even for a non-English speaker. (on the > possibly faulty assumption that most opinions derive from thinking about = the > subject being opined about %^). It's certainly not just malglico. In a sense it's even more malspano/malfraso/mal... than malglico because in Spanish "to think" is "pensar", in French "penser", which can also be used in the sense of "jinvi", with the added bonus that they even look like "pensi". (Probably one of the extremely few gismu that are readily identifiable for Spanish speakers.) The mnemonic is a double edged sword though, because it can lead people to an incorrect use of "pensi" based on the proper use of "pe'i". mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.