From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxDDksDlBBoEy7_E3w@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 23:18:58 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Slj-0005A6-Jx; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:18:58 -0700 Received: by qwa26 with SMTP id 26sf505531qwa.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:18:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=++FBMmqwcYsQubVhNSGA0vBlrp8ZCEqY74nWwrgratA=; b=akJd8xEbWiOqL+0KqtT4JCyZMIeNcDBwyXd9NP6yK5gLsSvLPaZrHf9dykCUxDsQwl HtU05O0X+dVzt814L9Jr4c4cQZiWsZHoL7dz6EYb2wk0zIbzYrHjahfds1sMoguVTnT5 rKVN8ul5tnr0/KY7WHhX4XKpGpiXOPoQWWP4I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h9Q+/g2NxX3TjJ86+tAxSB/pitbxRxOZ0Q7B9bxeqUuhMP3PWbTPu+7hYdHK0F3ZOz l25U/OX4kxhxaiStKM4VhdiO9asT0VaAF/B8cpmucptvEszasiwxigJej3MUp1zxguBm twwOvBGT+s4OdaxVh4cm/ZnalujqKVoOslpmM= Received: by 10.224.200.9 with SMTP id eu9mr83545qab.55.1286605123184; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:18:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.138.15 with SMTP id y15ls321958qat.1.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.219.10 with SMTP id hs10mr631672qab.26.1286605122508; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.219.10 with SMTP id hs10mr631671qab.26.1286605122499; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com (mail-qy0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 19si1439931qci.4.2010.10.08.23.18.41; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.176; Received: by mail-qy0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 29so1757170qyk.7 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:18:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.51.193 with SMTP id e1mr2316059qag.355.1286605121297; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.101.199 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 23:18:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010081902.22934.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 08:18:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Learning cmavo From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, I fixed the errors you spot, changed {du} to a pro-bridi (but not {zi'e} to a pro-sumti), made a SVG and a PNG (and also kept the pdf, of course). Now the next question would be: should I add it to the lojban.org material or should I make it live on jbotcan? remo On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> I suggest SVG, which is a vector format. PNG would have stairsteps or bl= urs on >> the letters. > I had started doing this with Inkscape but I was too slow with it. Let > me check how good is OpenOffice at exporting to SVG. Of course if > anyone is interested I can handover the OOo Draw file. > >>> I thought {du} was a pro-bridi? >> >> It's in the same selma'o, so it should have the same color. Also "zi'o" = is a >> pro-sumti, but is colored like an operator. > > I'm not just grouping by slema'o or I would get any more help. > > My understanding is {zi'o} is special in that when used it does not > represent a sumti, rather it cancel the sumti places modifying the > meaning of the brivla itself. =A0If I got {zi'o} correctly, if I say > {zi'o klama xyboi zy.} =A0I'm not saying that "nobody is going to x from > y" but "there's a path to x from y". =A0Hence it's not colored as other > pro-sumti. > > {du} is different. I understand it as a brivla. I can't get why it has > been defined as a cmavo. > >> Also "brodi" appears thrice. > FIxed! thanks > > Remo > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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