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To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Learning cmavo Message-ID: <20101009152624.GA1918@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <201010081902.22934.phma@phma.optus.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.160.41 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would find it easier to work on and extend if it were on lojban.org. I request you place it there. And, very very nice. I like it a lot. -Alan On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 08:18:41AM +0200, Remo Dentato wrote: > Ok, I fixed the errors you spot, changed {du} to a pro-bridi (but not > {zi'e} to a pro-sumti), made a SVG and a PNG (and also kept the pdf, > of course). >=20 > Now the next question would be: should I add it to the lojban.org > material or should I make it live on jbotcan? >=20 > remo >=20 > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote= : > >> I suggest SVG, which is a vector format. PNG would have stairsteps or = blurs on > >> the letters. > > I had started doing this with Inkscape but I was too slow with it. Let > > me check how good is OpenOffice at exporting to SVG. Of course if > > anyone is interested I can handover the OOo Draw file. > > > >>> I thought {du} was a pro-bridi? > >> > >> It's in the same selma'o, so it should have the same color. Also "zi'o= " is a > >> pro-sumti, but is colored like an operator. > > > > I'm not just grouping by slema'o or I would get any more help. > > > > My understanding is {zi'o} is special in that when used it does not > > represent a sumti, rather it cancel the sumti places modifying the > > meaning of the brivla itself. =A0If I got {zi'o} correctly, if I say > > {zi'o klama xyboi zy.} =A0I'm not saying that "nobody is going to x fro= m > > y" but "there's a path to x from y". =A0Hence it's not colored as other > > pro-sumti. > > > > {du} is different. I understand it as a brivla. I can't get why it has > > been defined as a cmavo. > > > >> Also "brodi" appears thrice. > > FIxed! thanks > > > > Remo > > >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. >=20 --=20 .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.