From lojban+bncCICntNPQBRCWssPlBBoEWrQj2A@googlegroups.com Sat Oct 09 14:05:39 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4gbp-0000MS-81; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:05:39 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf2368005gya.16 for ; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:05:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qCN81oFmRBHMqBj7spzskSXE5TpdECXiB3jEaj24f5k=; b=oillt8EUeYAIPde7nyfJmCTlXaxj7Y7tXImy1pEIJWxZ545I0AROu+WDecP076+V+K +rxtz2CmWVuJNFMruz/g2XJOGoqljo2xGS5lbzcTRt1ee1kl9fXNB8jy5DfkjBHaIFYu lNf/O974but/J6GLc9HgoKOMfOyikj1aPI8wA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=P4Bu3mnsq6AmzZtA50215uAUNZi7VMPvKXJkJs63i781qqEcPjR1kUF5YHDuD87LXV 9sMZ/j9EByEBHL+oidNyz/d/CXwp9iGAw+icLzIcLAZ+jC+u/Yu3kNe+IGc8KkMO4xXD kYF38rbYZYIOiNJI4Z0dfbgEgcWO5j34mQnsg= Received: by 10.101.20.2 with SMTP id x2mr57285ani.41.1286658326677; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:05:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.131.11 with SMTP id i11ls513055ann.5.p; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:05:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.47.6 with SMTP id z6mr56444anj.22.1286658325877; Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by j18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sat, 9 Oct 2010 14:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 14:05:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 166.134.124.102 References: <201010081902.22934.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20101009152624.GA1918@alice.local> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.10) Gecko/20100915 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.10,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <82e4f805-b84d-4921-96a4-44f3217cd093@j18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Learning cmavo From: Lindar To: lojban X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 du means "x1 is exactly the same thing as x2" Not like "this apple is exactly the same as that apple", but "Jeff's apple is the same as this apple." x1 and x2 of {du} are one and the same object/person/thing/idea. I believe it's derived from dunli, which is where 1 and 2 are similar objects and x3 is the similar trait. If there was anything in Lojban that was like "is", {du} would probably be it (in the sense of "Mr. Jingle is Jeff's bird." OSLT). So... not pro-bridi, it's an actual selbri. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.