From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhCixMzlBBoEx1RH7Q@googlegroups.com Mon Oct 11 07:41:54 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P5JZW-0004iu-TT; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:41:54 -0700 Received: by qwk4 with SMTP id 4sf4562549qwk.16 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:41:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zhXx1u9YQkrILro9kcou+x75uCv2g2+KnzWdHitkjbM=; b=hWfy0c8DQdAmuW7VP359+ndz8WG0NfjS1ChAX196q/k9EE/6Mnul+bx0ggBuXJCIoK yQwxtKVTU+rlKqhDhCfDDIOXw/CQjuFBwbC46Xd3PXUvZE/cnao7StG2zVIVXoId0e5V gk78b8BdqfMCw9gEQeO5VJePbKFnFZzBWtJ98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=N3vAdQwZHBvEUhqmild3bT2ptmYv24bfwFuFEgZodKERN7yp8sVoqPHEk4btzNApTZ OWWNK45CfNteblPeP1L5Rjnm/PJx5vkyh1gAX45je7CcE0Mthwd09mq5hs6UTbzQbAzw fXcDkiH86prw79VQtAW4ub4dc9TYdiBVaVxdA= Received: by 10.229.4.41 with SMTP id 41mr355983qcp.8.1286808098538; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:41:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.52.18 with SMTP id f18ls863230qcg.2.p; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.249.200 with SMTP id ml8mr489577qcb.0.1286808097611; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.249.200 with SMTP id ml8mr489576qcb.0.1286808097578; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f172.google.com (mail-qy0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n15si3441332qcu.11.2010.10.11.07.41.36; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.172; Received: by mail-qy0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 8so1007879qyk.10 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:41:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.180.196 with SMTP id bv4mr4637256qab.175.1286808096463; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.89.67 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:41:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201010081931.29131.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201010081931.29131.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:41:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] soi From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > Just checking the grammar, I find that 1) a soi-phrase is the same kind of > free modifier as a sei-clause, 2) "soi" can itself be followed by a free > modifier, and 3) "soi" can be followed by one or two sumti. So the following > sentences are grammatically correct: > > .i soi xi re li pai li te'o mi klama le zarci ... > What do such constructions mean? Well, DUH! Jbofi'e tells you! It means "reciprocal sumti-sub 2 [ pi, e] I is going to the trading place." All you have to do is read. QED --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.