From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBD2iaPlBBoELOE5Vg@googlegroups.com Sun Oct 03 11:01:45 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P2SsU-0001Ls-OB; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:01:45 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf3990950gwb.16 for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:01:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=I9xfX4t7yqsxl/SjS8K7IJYrG3OP9TGzoOpCxYgIDTY=; b=0zA2kTxUk8Po+Lg7RWiWeOA+zP/uJtXk1eVz4Po2F1lkoM05NmvXdkQDneuGEhFOdG SgikdLjpHsgikATd0Zdf+kJBuCEImdG2yk+8YTIYxsbC7BQNEMDujzIWKDcZUpNdNxkk 61T8FrmEu0Zk85VDQFX+jAZEj7RM/UgUbHpS4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=gkn03Rhh++oCFgoljh3r4mM1dbZh5Jzlv5KeeMHs6eKfwHtrv8gNef+z266hWLU9Y/ 4IDndjqfjw+qEGbhE0epxAQ+8i6xTkJjRGI5P8M3y1b9ZwMSWpHnGVzvs/TMuAEkIBBt LB0fMCEX0r5jSal6WXZhyqWL9eBF/7vuKoB2Y= Received: by 10.91.10.24 with SMTP id n24mr563727agi.0.1286128886491; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:01:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls2318969ibg.3.p; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.160.79 with SMTP id m15mr2305569ibx.6.1286128885595; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.160.79 with SMTP id m15mr2305568ibx.6.1286128885568; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com (mail-iw0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z37si2404760ibq.4.2010.10.03.11.01.24; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.181; Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so5710556iwn.26 for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.159.203 with SMTP id k11mr8861508ibx.115.1286128884410; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Oct 2010 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Oct 2010 11:01:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 14:01:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] A pro-sumti for PU? From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0050450156274a6f330491ba37a3 --0050450156274a6f330491ba37a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .u'icai mi tolmorji. At the time I was pulling that out of my arse in the hopes that it meant what I wanted it to mean. Hurray for intuiting/internalizing proper grammar usage! On Oct 3, 2010 1:54 PM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas" wrote: > On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Luke Bergen wrote= : >> ta'o .u'u >> Sorry to hijack the conversation for a brief moment but that va'onai thing >> looks interesting/useful but how does it work? Would "mi xagji va'onai lo >> nu mi citka" be how one could say "I am hungry unless I eat"? Because I've >> been wondering how to say things of that form recently. >> ta'onai > > I googled "va'onai lo nu" to find an example, and this is what came up: > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/8f091cb75fe8de3b > I think the author of that can explain to you how it works. > >> So can ku terminate bai as well? E.g. "mu'iku mi klama". Not sure exactly >> that would be... with some motive, I go? > > Usually it will be used with some context, so it will probably mean > something like "mu'i la'e di'u". > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com = . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0050450156274a6f330491ba37a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

.u'icai mi tolmorji.=A0 At the time I was pulling that out of my ars= e in the hopes that it meant what I wanted it to mean.=A0 Hurray for intuit= ing/internalizing proper grammar usage!

On Oct 3, 2010 1:54 PM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas&q= uot; <jjllambias@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Luke= Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
>> ta'o .u'u
>> Sorry to hijack the conversation for= a brief moment but that va'onai thing
>> looks interesting/us= eful but how does it work?=A0 Would "mi xagji va'onai lo
>&g= t; nu mi citka" be how one could say "I am hungry unless I eat&qu= ot;?=A0 Because I've
>> been wondering how to say things of that form recently.
>>= ; ta'onai
>
> I googled "va'onai lo nu" to f= ind an example, and this is what came up:
> http://groups.google.com/grou= p/lojban/msg/8f091cb75fe8de3b
> I think the author of that can explain to you how it works.
> >> So can ku terminate bai as well?=A0 E.g. "mu'iku mi kla= ma".=A0 Not sure exactly
>> that would be... with some motive= , I go?
>
> Usually it will be used with some context, so it will probabl= y mean
> something like "mu'i la'e di'u".
&g= t;
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
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