From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBC_wNPlBBoE44NrRQ@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 12 15:25:22 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P5nHX-0000BA-NI; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:22 -0700 Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4sf1842356vws.16 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MORiOoUomhRsX+GRAqImZJlo4E+6ATXNEdvU9vjpEOY=; b=Ld5qFW0dv25mANIzj+V+Wd9iAOXyW+rofk7ACJCQQQaWEP3rFrJOB96dCCWB2jtWXV OVfOY3/cytVwKNdxbqnxPXe7RRpjyygeQoab061kHTmY9EkzzASKokLafeJe6WIn0e9P 8vSW2TT/W20xOgbYfBpybQxZnNtJNLscM+vO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=T0MyE8mOD89U42LGV2ZCLngGtLD1lCGJQC8u5wp8kcq3+hAle+FM4JJlMWK2ln9QbV 5JwnpvPcTynrZQf87iiXSrzf52fXCLB8LzEJGtYQa/va2JYvfMbleVFAc8xsvcfo3JJ+ M9J28iBEGpxMDm+aVfCKzZICvX0gcOLv/3DgA= Received: by 10.220.199.132 with SMTP id es4mr259995vcb.48.1286922303237; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.77.158 with SMTP id g30ls24178vck.3.p; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.183.73 with SMTP id cf9mr1984215vcb.27.1286922302444; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.183.73 with SMTP id cf9mr1984214vcb.27.1286922302411; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f171.google.com (mail-qy0-f171.google.com [209.85.216.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j5si1266141vcs.4.2010.10.12.15.25.01; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.171; Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so1294002qyk.9 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.184.198 with SMTP id cl6mr4817823qcb.240.1286922301103; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.182.10 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.182.10 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:25:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] mei From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f9ff9c5e9d049272f2f7 --00163630f9ff9c5e9d049272f2f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, but you're using cimei and zemei as selbri. I'm talking about the x1 o= f cimei (lo cimei) which in your example is ta. So in your example is a set or a mass? On Oct 12, 2010 6:08 PM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas" wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: >> >> So which is it? > > At the risk of irritating some people, I will say it's neither. > > To me, "ci mei" means "x1 are three x2", and has nothing to do with > sets or masses. For example: > > ta ci mei lo gerku > "Those are three dogs." > > lo ralju jdazei cu ze mei > "The capital sins are seven." > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com = . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --00163630f9ff9c5e9d049272f2f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ok, but you're using cimei and zemei as selbri.=A0 I'm talking a= bout the x1 of cimei (lo cimei) which in your example is ta.=A0 So in your = example is <ta> a set or a mass?

On Oct 12, 2010 6:08 PM, "Jorge Llamb=EDas&= quot; <jjllambias@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Lu= ke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.co= m> wrote:
>>
>> So which is it?
>
> At the risk of irrita= ting some people, I will say it's neither.
>
> To me, &quo= t;ci mei" means "x1 are three x2", and has nothing to do wit= h
> sets or masses. For example:
>
> ta ci mei lo gerk= u
> "Those are three dogs."
>
> = lo ralju jdazei cu ze mei
> "The capital sins are seven.&= quot;
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
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