From lojban+bncCPrlgoD04bGDVBCd_drlBBoEC0dAvQ@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 14 01:26:26 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6J8m-0001FL-68; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:26:25 -0700 Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16sf757427fxm.16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:26:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:mime-version:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ln3/iX43mpswGBq4QeTZp10x1bbCXXNZea4gRQmgo4w=; b=zXWieX6p84lvNyi9IdfqYHLih3aQi9qgnJmsh+ikgS/o9UPnivKzQZ/EEC8aRWD7X3 4Gl1Q9Erg4TF2IdhVDxlT7D9Qh4LRFXkl6vw1W7yHvn98+5TrKS1s/LDNTwCSGvtkXiH 4HsEU/zlUf4pfcybHtM95edR3ccZNQqAVEgG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=6aLCo5/mL12UHNDAHzqOGB0xpER2kfeHDa8BcU9n7kG/8nZKoLBijf3dyjCkimueOV WNFP673Y3bJFj7zbstXOMEySmzZTptcgGnBO+3hu8CKZBAJyZoQ9T7zXkO2RNTyrGtKc 4Fi8eH+Nhl0hMfFWx2xOo7SedoO64dJL4jtlA= Received: by 10.223.16.202 with SMTP id p10mr262770faa.15.1287044765921; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:26:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.48.209 with SMTP id s17ls961917bkf.2.p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.126.154 with SMTP id c26mr538778bks.23.1287044764848; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.126.154 with SMTP id c26mr538777bks.23.1287044764826; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f48.google.com (mail-fx0-f48.google.com [209.85.161.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id z17si7039474bkb.3.2010.10.14.01.26.03; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of philip.newton@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.48; Received: by fxm13 with SMTP id 13so1000668fxm.7 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.40.1 with SMTP id s1mr1772148muj.4.1287044763528; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:26:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.1.144 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:25:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <411619.6727.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201010131021.22518.jezuch@interia.pl> From: Philip Newton Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:25:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Challenging pronunciation To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: philip.newton@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of philip.newton@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=philip.newton@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2010/10/13 Michael Turniansky : > Like lojban, Hebrew has both phonemes and they > are (what's the linguistic word for "makes a significant difference?" > I'm drawing a blank here). I think something like "Hebrew has both sounds and they are separate phonemes" (as opposed to "but they are allophones of the same phoneme"). mu'o mi'e .filip. -- Philip Newton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.