From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCb793lBBoEGnJaQA@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 14 14:35:41 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6VSZ-0001vY-HD; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:35:41 -0700 Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6sf132326gxk.16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:35:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=4uoOmbA3GwwuF1ofe1exp/izrQ6MVNKx1G/y26Eqm7U=; b=Megtl7/IKbzJh6lrq8rfBSXuKLlZx0czzWRpj+GxwBa64OwtC0TDkYwrHjufKondwV k91VrcbU6C5TkSiV5Unq6NQo8O/twjcJG+1RhRbxmdGXEm0KQcA71M/7U8l8kmqpfgej QcEzIJXkNIqgxXeT3L9n+hT8T//i/JIxwx7UY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Rtc3emRiOVbcSJ0zWg17sRHjkoD8zPCQWPksNgVXxm8gb4WyVZzCS+jOF4uQqFA+ul JTIpWBY8pkddHEVkEYLJLYRFE6yOugZIYBOp99DTuoM2tiJCmRQGKsBh5QwYN3WlNfp+ vhYs/nEJkmyAIt1UjlLsf5Yv17vCba4ofAMbA= Received: by 10.90.103.12 with SMTP id a12mr321564agc.59.1287092123168; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls1903439ibr.2.p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.161.81 with SMTP id q17mr3743309ibx.12.1287092122449; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.161.81 with SMTP id q17mr3743308ibx.12.1287092122420; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j25si2758543ibb.4.2010.10.14.14.35.21; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.172; Received: by iwn10 with SMTP id 10so79235iwn.17 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:35:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.182.5 with SMTP id ca5mr9057553ibb.68.1287091630356; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.68 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:27:10 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Question regarding {cu'e} From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367b679a6bca5d04929a5f46 --0016367b679a6bca5d04929a5f46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "modal ? cu'e is a tense/modal question (meaning it takes the place of a fully-specified modal/tense). Specifically, it turns the entire bridi into a question, and requests that the listener provide a tense/modal as an answer.The tense/modal response fills the place where cu'e was in the original bridi and the resulting bridi is the answer offered to the question. To indicate that there is no value that could make that bridi true, use {unknown}. A more extreme rejection of the presuppositions or implicatures involved in a question is to reply with {unknown}." What are the appropriate {unknown}s? -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016367b679a6bca5d04929a5f46 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "modal ? cu'e is a tense/modal question (meaning it takes the plac= e of a=20 fully-specified modal/tense). Specifically, it turns the entire bridi=20 into a question, and requests that the listener provide a tense/modal as an answer.The tense/modal response fills the place where cu'e was in t= he original=20 bridi and the resulting bridi is the answer offered to the question. To ind= icate that there is no value that could make that bridi true, use=20 {unknown}. A more extreme rejection of the presuppositions or=20 implicatures involved in a question is to reply with {unknown}."
What are the appropriate {unknown}s?

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(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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