From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDetqPlBBoE3fErCA@googlegroups.com Sun Oct 03 12:37:21 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P2UN0-0007hm-PB; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 12:37:19 -0700 Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40sf1186190wyb.16 for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 12:37:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=I6Q7+ZfcMSioZSW4qiAvWaiSbHthpaxrwntW8hVwVUA=; b=lkjeYo9WlEkfJFtryuh8eV7a/yjmO5x462uHvAStVorhT8HZImdd1YiwRsdPdMckJI y0sp7ckMrtjHZPSkiBkHHIiUPnxJNIxpRGxHc/F9a78LasLro+po14zzpppMzRA2hcwM Kmllq8hPsjSMsdfUDytZ62ZILmRO0JP4i1368= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=AKcll5E5itbv/1MGuZOcAsNaRI423uAGRkCiXXP3t7rckQdVnZJ0yG9X4wokZk4vpC jEt/PheveYFrnWbH9v5+P6/SzsVIPXLy+MFvMuvutVfImSygY6AnLkAwGHH8vHBHR4VR fgHsBbuhOO0cvmka91cIUehF1cVHqP9vUr+Cc= Received: by 10.216.145.167 with SMTP id p39mr1467468wej.10.1286134622282; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 12:37:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.92.203 with SMTP id s11ls1499262wbm.1.p; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 12:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.128.76 with SMTP id j12mr321178wbs.19.1286134621500; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 12:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.128.76 with SMTP id j12mr321177wbs.19.1286134621480; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 12:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f46.google.com (mail-ww0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s70si1109838weq.13.2010.10.03.12.37.00; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.46; Received: by mail-ww0-f46.google.com with SMTP id 31so4069800wwb.3 for ; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.156.196 with SMTP id y4mr6496609wbw.219.1286134620260; Sun, 03 Oct 2010 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Oct 2010 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 16:37:00 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] A pro-sumti for PU? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > Also, you say that the idiomatic way to say it would be to tell it in the > right order. Yes, in English this works, but why, given the option, would > you build the language in this way? Why not try to maximize flexibility of > order? I didn't design the language, so for the most part I can't answer why something was done one way or the other. If for some reason you need to assign to a variable, for each bridi that you assert, the time when the event described by the bridi happens, you can do that in several ways. To me it doesn't seem like something you would want to do very often, and if the story gets a bit long it quickly becomes completely unmanageable for the human mind, but it's doable at least in principle. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.