From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCZwuTlBBoETuj0-A@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 15 20:51:06 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6xnS-00026L-RK; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:51:05 -0700 Received: by gyh3 with SMTP id 3sf1560734gyh.16 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:50:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=TPjmtiF7nFk+bqS/x67rkf/rn90l3821yOF0OYAgI2Q=; b=tuMI589sQhnKV7G69sqWdJQuTDDMTyAaIIuBlkhA3xyDZAr7NOmz+hX+R2UwcXtfRx p/QoY1qRfzvzdLWKsj9+BEp9vqFjD/QjYA/AgtpTLvMYODAEcyVuzFgrw23kXWX5RRyM geMWXQbx3QlUvBqxmaEt/6W8n8M3QmL7iM9Qw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=OMeInLZ5uPEnsT4nJKqKakHDi7h8elLG8aUa9cTbaM5fT8TnnHgBDokdrozrmC0itO UxqiJYsjkPV9NGN1AjtekVnvIViAcIrG8CdjgtuJHvW4qlkppJZu3Cx54htJlT5THOCP L20i7OlHzAcG3wBa5v89wF9uyK6XBryNpu7hc= Received: by 10.151.63.26 with SMTP id q26mr52371ybk.58.1287201050018; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:50:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.55.74 with SMTP id t10ls2791423ibg.3.p; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.33.74 with SMTP id g10mr723465ibd.13.1287201048772; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.33.74 with SMTP id g10mr723464ibd.13.1287201048736; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f178.google.com (mail-iw0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id cm31si8268594ibb.3.2010.10.15.20.50.47; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.178; Received: by mail-iw0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 7so447054iwn.9 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:50:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.19.74 with SMTP id z10mr1421986iba.120.1287201047424; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:50:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <385d6b2f-c484-494b-9241-6d7429ce0ec3@p20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:50:47 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Questions on isolating utterances before completely parsing From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221532cd102fb01c0492b3d91f --00221532cd102fb01c0492b3d91f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 oh wow, that sounds like a potentially really fun forum. And what is this "rite of passage" of which you speak, and how would one go about attempting to survive said rite? On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Stela Selckiku wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Adam Lopresto > wrote: > > > > .i mi lu mi prami do cusku > > The ONLY usage I can recall seeing of this type of sentence is when > experts are showing off their mastery of the obscurities! I can parse > them fine, ever since being put through that rite of passage myself, > but I doubt the language would be much poorer without them. OTOH > they'd be very useful on the forum I've been considering making > (perhaps called "lujyjbo") for intentionally convoluted and obscure > Lojban! I thought it could be fun sport if we gathered somewhere far > away from the confused newbies and made Lojban dance with strange > elisions and deep embedding and the layered SE shell game, etc. Even > for that purpose, though, I'm not sure there's anything especially > worthwhile about this quirk! It's not like Lojban has any shortage of > obscurations to play with. > > mi'e .telselkik. mu'o > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00221532cd102fb01c0492b3d91f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh wow, that sounds like a potentially really fun forum.

And what is this "rite of passage" of which you speak, and how w= ould one go about attempting to survive said rite?

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Adam Lopresto <adamlopresto@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> >
> .i mi lu mi prami do cusku

The ONLY usage I can recall seeing of this type of sentence is when experts are showing off their mastery of the obscurities! =A0I can parse them fine, ever since being put through that rite of passage myself,
but I doubt the language would be much poorer without them. =A0OTOH
they'd be very useful on the forum I've been considering making
(perhaps called "lujyjbo") for intentionally convoluted and obscu= re
Lojban! =A0I thought it could be fun sport if we gathered somewhere far
away from the confused newbies and made Lojban dance with strange
elisions and deep embedding and the layered SE shell game, etc. =A0Even
for that purpose, though, I'm not sure there's anything especially<= br> worthwhile about this quirk! =A0It's not like Lojban has any shortage o= f
obscurations to play with.

mi'e .telselkik. mu'o

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