From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCmw-jlBBoEaw7Ziw@googlegroups.com Sat Oct 16 15:05:41 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P7Esk-00076P-Bl; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:05:41 -0700 Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6sf2256822gxk.16 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:05:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=/PsIlO1+1zy6hMdcoICkcq95snr9xxicdBn/qDy+19w=; b=6zbfga7fqvJ00FYRJKyNDPLjO2dN+oPFQc9+qOIYrH2PsffX53IhYNiUD8xpjDvTcG ox/JPg9MmxP8etv4o9/lHyrKt+yZ2QLJwozEhUeUoV+AHrWT7fhsC2XDClpUxGpTwHmy A1ttghp8zSEehOaOu/daVpuELjuXERV5kzhKk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Iw/aw68R/HX+zLlv6QdJStEGXHPwLhyE6r1uIhI0jfpq5vCa9A0CUgvCr2lmH6Oh1n Hm/F8WHjMDHsURKRIyG+euihjdl2inGAluBgulMoA2AjI02+GASh/CWXVmcetK67dPMT vhSio0HS+lLOWPrSN3da559aUDArfleZDxtDk= Received: by 10.236.105.212 with SMTP id k60mr76011yhg.10.1287266726721; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:05:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls3067066ibr.2.p; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.7 with SMTP id ce7mr1519898ibb.7.1287266726256; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.7 with SMTP id ce7mr1519897ibb.7.1287266726227; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f181.google.com (mail-iw0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id cm31si8841410ibb.3.2010.10.16.15.05.25; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.181; Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so3352872iwn.40 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:05:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.1.9 with SMTP id 9mr1906082ice.52.1287266419107; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.208.15 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:00:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201010162038.17241.jezuch@interia.pl> References: <385d6b2f-c484-494b-9241-6d7429ce0ec3@p20g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <201010162038.17241.jezuch@interia.pl> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:00:19 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Questions on isolating utterances before completely parsing From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba18180ea469dc0492c311b0 --90e6ba18180ea469dc0492c311b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Krzysztof Sobolewski w= rote: > Dnia sobota, 16 pa=BCdziernika 2010 o 08:02:11 Jonathan Jones napisa=B3(a= ): > > > Still, as just a simple example of annoying practices (you call it > amusing art, I call it annoying practice, agree to disagree, Stela), some= one > should post in .lokadin.'s evil no space writing style. > > > > .imiCUSkubaula.lojban. , to provide a rather simple example, although t= o > truly do it justice, a more complex jufra should be used. > > But but but - isn't it how you are suppoed to understand Lojban from > hearing? A constant stream of phonemes, some stressed, some not? Does tha= t > mean that speaking Lojban is an annoying pratice? ;) > -- > Ecce Jezuch > "In the darkest hole, you'd be well advised > Not to plan my funeral before the body dies" - J. Cantrell > That was lokadin's argument, IIRC. My answer is no, but writing conventions and speech are not the same thing. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --90e6ba18180ea469dc0492c311b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Krzysztof Sobo= lewski <jezuch@in= teria.pl> wrote:
Dnia sobota, 16 pa=BCdziernika 2010 o 08:02:11 Jonathan Jones napisa=B3(a):=

> =A0Still, as just a simple example of annoying practices (you call it = amusing art, I call it annoying practice, agree to disagree, Stela), someon= e should post in .lokadin.'s evil no space writing style.
>
> .imiCUSkubaula.lojban. , to provide a rather simple example, although = to truly do it justice, a more complex jufra should be used.

But but but - isn't it how you are suppoed to understand Lojban f= rom hearing? A constant stream of phonemes, some stressed, some not? Does t= hat mean that speaking Lojban is an annoying pratice? ;)
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Ecce Jezuch
"In the darkest hole, you'd be well advised
Not to plan my funeral before the body dies" - J. Cantrell

That was lokadin's argument, IIRC. My ans= wer is no, but writing conventions and speech are not the same thing.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e= ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o=
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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