From lojban+bncCNXflom_FxCayuzlBBoENS5IGQ@googlegroups.com Sun Oct 17 09:32:43 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P7WA3-0006vP-A9; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:32:43 -0700 Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16sf11774fxm.16 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:32:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wvtB0e0o+vAe+mYVl9406v6xtRDyd3KH44kQ0xz1Osc=; b=6vPbs176BRrGtMIXxn65nWpxnjwQkREFGMFrgRfU7FTqZib4tpkBrTbb+Bf0rzH7tX 8sNs0Sz8MoHSkydBPVCXQe/YoClx9ewoMMyjXFOhLVluZKvfkwDn2vuGOW1Nq3wh4BSu IeVihLDU4G2TLHCvMwdXXoyOsXak3gjGfApGA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Y/Ol7QhcUIGllJzJLs3aMdGvZxFktXqx22ycZq/wNkqm4fWM4epQksdcSy5yd9H9Rg 6jjO1lFbOS2wrAWZx2z+B54il/NhDA3ZITQHMDjBOYBn0HJlbie75ZT8wKgeErcLCnlb tKsepVMNjqySGBTBADnfPxtgHwN0mJs2bLHzA= Received: by 10.223.91.139 with SMTP id n11mr39076fam.20.1287333146142; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.32.142 with SMTP id c14ls223802fad.2.p; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.1.14 with SMTP id 14mr16799fad.10.1287333145105; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.1.14 with SMTP id 14mr16798fad.10.1287333145073; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f52.google.com (mail-bw0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l25si2258005fam.8.2010.10.17.09.32.24; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.52; Received: by mail-bw0-f52.google.com with SMTP id 8so71074bwz.39 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:32:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.52.208 with SMTP id j16mr2676095bkg.133.1287333143921; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.56.195 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:32:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <411619.6727.qm@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <201010171201.02214.jezuch@interia.pl> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 12:32:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Challenging pronunciation From: maikxlx To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: maikxlx@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=maikxlx@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c59915c044290492d29a34 --001636c59915c044290492d29a34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Oleksii Melnyk wrote= : > I vote for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velar_approximant > > > mu'o mi'e lex > According to the CLL, Lojban vowels are undefined for roundness. Therefore= , the velar approximant [=C9=B0], which is both an unrounded version of [w] a= nd an approximant version of the unrounded close back vowel [=C9=AF], may be theoretically regarded as a legitimate variant of /u/. mu'o mi'e .maik. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --001636c59915c044290492d29a34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Oleksii Melnyk= <lamelnyk@gmail= .com> wrote:
I vote for http://en.wikipedia= .org/wiki/Velar_approximant


mu'o mi'e lex
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According to the CLL, Lojban vowels are undefined for roundness.=C2=A0= =C2=A0Therefore, the velar approximant=C2=A0[=C9=B0], which is both an unro= unded version of [w] and an approximant version of the unrounded close back= vowel [=C9=AF],=C2=A0may be theoretically=C2=A0regar= ded as a legitimate variant of /u/.=C2=A0
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mu'o mi'e .maik.
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