From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxDRjfDlBBoE_1cRXA@googlegroups.com Mon Oct 18 01:45:53 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P7lLn-0004jj-HF; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:45:53 -0700 Received: by wyb39 with SMTP id 39sf625532wyb.16 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:45:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :message-id:date:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=4kDaikqUTYLOw/qGeRtkxkX9KnB5gP4HZ1SK32FaDrM=; b=hfT6aM554KcitmUF2poleEEJ7xCHNT5QP6kicgfrr5tQT0DbGRBefWTWwiGhiIJ18Y xhbpymOSG7QSGDFeJ+dLS8FNb8J9OKbIuecoSjOhxx6WCeaPRFsrWdaHDhBB8bImCdjW RRWuYvgzyqj14e3TWxNC5syCprmENIwewVZkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:message-id:date :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=tddaRrdlgZJRjFleCokYQuAUN7gCnFSx9mCESy6P0PPEpgCcttYv+Lt5D/ug7gD0kT IRzv2TJHiX61cWn3a8haSo6ZDt8LNQVxhEjznN05aq57WUrxrhCkNWhDbMawoGpUfDky uKrB90r6528UXPQ9N/Vsz7vlNWr1u0OE6iZQ8= Received: by 10.216.231.71 with SMTP id k49mr330681weq.14.1287390929418; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:35:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.137.193 with SMTP id x1ls2653047bkt.0.p; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.156.1 with SMTP id u1mr56724bkw.13.1287390928393; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.156.1 with SMTP id u1mr56723bkw.13.1287390928339; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f69.google.com (mail-fx0-f69.google.com [209.85.161.69]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w9si4415258bkz.0.2010.10.18.01.35.28; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.69 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.69; Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so96563fxm.8 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:35:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.112.129 with SMTP id w1mr689227ebp.18.1287390927855; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 01:35:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101018081646.GE8367@nvg.org> Message-ID: <0015174c140ef126fb0492e00e06@google.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:35:27 +0000 Subject: Re: Re: [lojban] admire From: rdentato@gmail.com To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.69 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c140ef126e40492e00e03 --0015174c140ef126e40492e00e03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Oct 18, 2010 10:16am, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:10:56AM +0200, Remo Dentato wrote: > > One of the word I had to create for the translation of "le nu makfa > > prami" is "admirer". > > > > I couldn't find any suitable word in jbovlaste so I decided to create a > lujvo. > sinma? The problem with {sinma} is that it has the sense of "esteem" or "respect". You can admire a painting or the view from your house but I don't think you can "respect" or "highly regard" them. To me {sinma} is more for mental or conceptual properties while "admire" has a sensorial connotation that I think should be in the lojban word. remo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015174c140ef126e40492e00e03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Oct 18, 2010 10:16am, Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 10:10:56AM +0200, Remo Dentato wrote:
> > One of the word I had to create for the translation of "le = nu makfa
> > prami" is "admirer".
> ><= br />> > I couldn't find any suitable word in jbovlaste so I deci= ded to create a lujvo.
>
> sinma?

The problem w= ith {sinma} is that it has the sense of "esteem" or "respect= ". You can admire a painting or the view from your house but I don'= ;t think you can "respect" or "highly regard" them.

To me {sinma} is more for mental or conceptual properties while &qu= ot;admire" has a sensorial connotation that I think should be in the l= ojban word.

remo

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