From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxCSvPDlBBoEXIZriw@googlegroups.com Mon Oct 18 03:14:58 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P7mk2-0002Bp-TA; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:14:57 -0700 Received: by qwk4 with SMTP id 4sf1172675qwk.16 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:14:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0usTn+44L/WE7HEBeUvtkFgJ2b/A9IzhJtPhTDY1xDM=; b=nf5lSFJz+72+E5lmyaNGddI4Rxo+X8xmywVnK1L6Us8HTIw8Kk/1Qbb45k0uhQMW6Z JTqwpB6LHsXpWl2As7Pw3n3lK+Fhh+mDdn9H3cIvVbzGXDoSw3udtghNA1lKX9EQd8Gk dGuAy4yXoaL/t8I6xb4ihhmunNvTpiO17j2kA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oXcG9iWSb0SUzBx5iuaBXpKVJQ0oba0kk70Sbc0kajIwfOJbZS+OeB1kAd6MWi8FKU w9h9GrnA60WzTOYENXqqbojh8dfuLFh8RGFKMuW4Rc4rQMWTmIkG7F0HjCW0IkW0bb1y q9UBh5LFm6PdHY/rlO1/EaVuR25rWLlbpyTkQ= Received: by 10.229.43.139 with SMTP id w11mr264035qce.47.1287396882597; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:14:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.253.200 with SMTP id nb8ls2082887qcb.2.p; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.248.6 with SMTP id me6mr447191qcb.2.1287396882107; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.248.6 with SMTP id me6mr447190qcb.2.1287396882023; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f46.google.com (mail-qw0-f46.google.com [209.85.216.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 3si8138967qci.14.2010.10.18.03.14.40; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.46; Received: by qwa26 with SMTP id 26so404109qwa.19 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:14:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.177.137 with SMTP id bi9mr2505111qab.92.1287396880870; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.189.67 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Oct 2010 03:14:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20101018081646.GE8367@nvg.org> <0015174c140ef126fb0492e00e06@google.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:14:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: [lojban] admire From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > =A0It seems to me, then if THAT'S the aspect you are looking for, then > se melbi is what you want. Probably it's because I'm not a native English speaker. Is that the case that "admiring" and "finding beautiful" is the same in English? I must have been mislead by the fact that in Italian I can "admire" the simmetry of a building or the contrast of the colors in a painting without necessarily implying that they are beautiful. Probably Italian has retained something more of the latin "mirari" (looking with marvel, wondering). --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.