From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCRrPblBBoETY3GHA@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 19 05:59:14 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8BmY-0002RQ-Sq; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:59:14 -0700 Received: by wyb39 with SMTP id 39sf1531571wyb.16 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:59:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3BBDDAr+KURVWsNrZ4u1clZm5qQdduVGJaMEcSSXcbI=; b=P+Hj1zm+hcLzWRbTyaDHHUOig/d0qb1c1mnbpGS2G7B3EvIKGmTAR7xx1/qWAY9s26 ClR+Fo93lvslHhj3ESy1XOmeXT9ygWKHrcPtrGyZ+pwjiBjTIUqiDXwDYVeBUNgzL1J9 3le7k/lsHxOdR1BbkQqFz4IiZh3QoVwQGRpeg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CP7tXJz/yukPUXItReFHlLhMtWUN8dBOjySby2x8YTuNKkj7A8aMy5hG3U0ISh80nX W3v8yEIa6GAlu/mphZ2kVR0grF5rgNAD/DTQYFO3n25TjbwIkh7F94flcoB7OPrj4KXP WcLavbSFkoWnGQZ0epBkECccG6HNF1p2/Fb9w= Received: by 10.216.187.5 with SMTP id x5mr461269wem.25.1287493137347; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:58:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.58.143 with SMTP id q15ls153241wec.1.p; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.181.80 with SMTP id k58mr330389wem.9.1287493135341; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.181.80 with SMTP id k58mr330388wem.9.1287493135308; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f44.google.com (mail-ww0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id t18si1072386wes.1.2010.10.19.05.58.54; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.44; Received: by mail-ww0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 15so38113wwe.13 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:58:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.127.149 with SMTP id g21mr5968123wbs.218.1287493134086; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.32.140 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 05:58:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010181924.47842.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:58:53 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] lenu makfa prami From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Stela Selckiku wrot= e: >> 2010/10/18 Jorge Llamb=EDas : >>> >>> So what is the pattern? What's the place structure of "rolnicte"? >> >> Hmm, I guess "x1 is every night at location x2". > > My idea was that {roldonri} is "x1 is every day (in the daytime)", > {rolvenci} is "x1 is every evening" and {rolnicte} is "x1 is every > night". If "lo rolnicte" is all nights together, then "ca lo rolnicte" doen't seem to be something repeated every night. I can't get from "ca ro lo nicte" to "ca lo rolnicte". > I understand that this is the most contentious point. What if I put > {ca ro donri} to say "every night"? Would that be ok for all? That would work for me. I don't know what the original says, but from the context I would have expected a simple "ca lo nicte" ("at night"), since she seems to be talking about all the things she habitually does. None of the other things are explicitly quantified, so I wouldn't quantify the day/evening/night three either. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.