From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCVx_blBBoEVL87Bw@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 19 06:56:55 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8CgK-0006Rv-09; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:56:54 -0700 Received: by ywo7 with SMTP id 7sf1278772ywo.16 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:56:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IVkw2fb8cK4PkIajEDSx4Rz34VWwCTXNLtgNGa4FbbY=; b=kCcBjZLvtucQoe0alO4ibJXpRDa62DhFXaErgXeRr9hTKP4VnzYwUva9QYZ8ypNaNV +jsEXwkFlWfUgAatwLcIylh5IQ4iN8uwYmy76db1ri6JoKKIpdSJt25pVEMEe2+IARre Q4sYBpePHLwbIxarqRjPe1RvBOlaHZ04OMJX0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=H6OcNRy7TVRmc7VbSZXTkpiwhDdSR5U8tKIkfQEah8gYM2M/Mjut4dX5iXSjZDDXzQ TEJfYVHYssFqfy6NJfCd7prEeXEvhWzSsplcFvUKYcQVmhf0po8MJyoh7WGfhrRj5SJT yg6dEp8DabIhYuz9HiN8v1r3NamRq43sUsVh8= Received: by 10.100.141.15 with SMTP id o15mr157501and.52.1287496597282; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:56:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.54.20 with SMTP id c20ls192474yba.5.p; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.50.7 with SMTP id x7mr1687679ybx.52.1287496596664; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.50.7 with SMTP id x7mr1687677ybx.52.1287496596634; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f179.google.com (mail-gy0-f179.google.com [209.85.160.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j10si1070765yha.2.2010.10.19.06.56.35; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.179; Received: by mail-gy0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 12so9234gyd.24 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:56:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.79.212 with SMTP id s20mr4616616ick.95.1287496594955; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.14 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 06:56:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010181924.47842.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:56:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] lenu makfa prami From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3011d90f311ee00492f8a93f --20cf3011d90f311ee00492f8a93f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .u'u mi na pinxe lo ckafi ca lo nu mi ciska .i .e'u ko toljundi mi 2010/10/19 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > Oh. From your email I thought that you would interpret "ca ro cerni" a= s > > being something like "during that time which is I wake > up" > > like you are waking up one time and that one time event is occurring at > > every night, which is absurd. > > But I said exactly the opposite, didn't I? That's how I would > interpret "ca lo rolcerni". > > > Would you interpret it the same way for location tags? e.g. if I say: > "mi > > citka bu'u ro lo gusta" have I said that I eat at every restaurant > (multiple > > events of me eating) or that I eat once at the location > (every restaurant); > > (an absurd statement)? > > The former, that's exactly what quantifiers are for. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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2010/10/19 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com&g= t;
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1= 0:42 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeaberg= en@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh. =A0From your email I thought that you would interpret "ca ro = cerni" as
> being something like "during that time which is <every morning= > I wake up"
> like you are waking up one time and that one time event is occurring a= t
> every night, which is absurd.

But I said exactly the opposite, didn't I? That's how I would=
interpret "ca lo rolcerni".

> Would you interpret it the same way for location tags? =A0e.g. if I sa= y: "mi
> citka bu'u ro lo gusta" have I said that I eat at every=A0res= taurant (multiple
> events of me eating) or that I eat once at the location (every=A0resta= urant);
> (an absurd statement)?

The former, that's exactly what quantifiers are for.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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