From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRC-yfblBBoEphylpw@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 19 07:01:48 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8Cl7-0006hu-IE; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:48 -0700 Received: by gwj22 with SMTP id 22sf2140842gwj.16 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:message-id:x-ymail-osg:received :x-mailer:references:date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IiyWud0+cFXFw3IQN3l2kN4dn0ermjbeNSLIcRKrQEE=; b=yd3+7/Ichhr4eCJMC6Or92oh9hXA2ovamBFZaTUxno8o4WpuV6BqKuNnI6V/0ooxxE aJEhE8NYVcGhPogI9gzDyuncuzwwUcvtUyJrztF26Ls3rANSwvmoZxfpPL0gkSTPmXCp o/ynsKoWEIFwOwKYYfmQsAI+QG82fWnq6sw20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references :date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=lWeBsvQveY+HAWEi+b+j7WYZ50fkUii7bRHRtrHWZWfPG1M+CQs9PIIwPJ2ht3TXwX /AMgXN/HcO2Bf2oRG3QVqQWKfy8oTNKIW7lhRyQxuRBaRtUH8tJ3qQ/ZS0XXwAUDNgUm vcQO1GQXQdFDBNId6vhDKnakec5LoggrbMGAY= Received: by 10.151.63.32 with SMTP id q32mr465091ybk.24.1287496894749; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.54.20 with SMTP id c20ls194287yba.5.p; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.146.3 with SMTP id y3mr272706ybn.8.1287496892941; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.146.3 with SMTP id y3mr272705ybn.8.1287496892903; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id w9si100253ybe.9.2010.10.19.07.01.31; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.122 as permitted sender) client-ip=68.142.199.122; Received: (qmail 83234 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Oct 2010 14:01:31 -0000 Message-ID: <329814.52746.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dV4fFz0VM1k_8QubltotK0T15s14Q4yQKA4rznHPRmCDBJe KiUX0UiFniUoyXKKQjDuf.MtD1kaQ6pl1YaN6TMmUImPjGdTjYfzsqtihLxN _nP2_4XcMCVyuEgptgBONCnmSA9i0poGazRn1T6OebAsdqx6wsnlj3WaYq6a V.paXSq0Lm._UW.RFNEaCXySpBqgsOx2FHjM1oTNqyQTleXM6L3v_fbHU6a. DA7UbvMTtXpYBa219bhaRGRzEPjgFkp8jXu1lF7H0azE4FYTke1cSbvKdiZm v8YnycEbqoMKM75Ebxjxrq_QVmxsqP7thN4yhUBF0Cj0gqpvblUu06776CB1 hB9Wn37HuBTA- Received: from [99.92.110.13] by web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.106.282862 References: <334901.224.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:01:31 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] video about lo & le To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.122 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Now that last bit is a feeling a Lojban student can identify with! ----- Original Message ---- From: Stela Selckiku To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 7:14:39 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] video about lo & le On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:32 PM, John E. Clifford wrote: > Well, the history is incomplete and thus more confusing than it need > be (why would anyone think that?) and the final explanation leaves > out some of the fun stuff. But the general exhortation is a good one. Well I was under somewhat of a time limit. I wanted to get it under the 15 minute limit for YouTube, and even that long is stretching the abilities of my computer and camera. So I was looking at the time on the camera and thinking "oop, better finish this up!" There was a lot more I could have said. But I'm not sure an hour of ranting about lo/le would really benefit the new students that much anyway! Incidentally, while I was making this video I was focusing intently on thinking about lo/le and wandering randomly, so when I looked up after I finished recording I had no idea where I was! I barely found my way out of the woods before it got dark! mi'e .telselkik. mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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