From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxDKhvvlBBoEhHfkmQ@googlegroups.com Wed Oct 20 03:24:25 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8VqI-0008J1-R7; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:24:25 -0700 Received: by qwk4 with SMTP id 4sf3343044qwk.16 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:24:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vi1QgUM10RVi2NJuuiTlqCVpGHOBWpv10PO5+qvzdo0=; b=0XDHyQDr+2mAr2Q8+9r3XsrngGWvXfnsrKaE+XgWXV6ZcopRr1bAfM1o0Cwc4P2PxP Eqtck54GAiPoR9dxYGOhnqr3SM5IaQYI1hihN6tlSef9nLrnwYnhj6DhQGicBMOmi2tR gm4y+gt11+HzagFu7o7orwmHJyEX50TOM/hgo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=KqwCmXhVb6NZaVL6odHvt9N6cMWFtyQRYmapNJNLVC2zUoYzNdjgqPPQnYC2xvpudr B2CpR0Cn+t7SX8h1etf9+oXmQx/lZGh5kRUodW7w0A0+FFnWTRmiTpLzER/at5xG4ZGs NJTx1S4O4LPtv5qBmTlA/WgqxO1B/+ISrlTis= Received: by 10.224.3.6 with SMTP id 6mr184699qal.57.1287570250168; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:24:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.189.129 with SMTP id de1ls192500qab.4.p; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.213.197 with SMTP id gx5mr1258644qab.14.1287570249561; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.213.197 with SMTP id gx5mr1258643qab.14.1287570249554; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f42.google.com (mail-qw0-f42.google.com [209.85.216.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id m5si16748qcu.0.2010.10.20.03.24.08; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.42; Received: by mail-qw0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 5so2185146qwg.29 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:24:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.98.84 with SMTP id p20mr6281254qcn.149.1287570247852; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.189.67 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 12:24:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] despite ... From: Remo Dentato To: lojban X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What would be the best way to translate "despite" in a sentence like: "I like you despite your bad behavior" I used {gu mi nelci do gi do maljikca} and I've been suggested by Pierre to use BAI like {mi nelci do mu'inai lenu do maljikca} or {mi nelci do ki'unai maljikca} but I can't decide which one better renders the original. Using modals seems to more like saying "it's not because you misbheave that I like you". Has anyone a suggestion for this case? Thanks, Remo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.