From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRD_y_vlBBoEAqorAQ@googlegroups.com Wed Oct 20 05:52:34 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8Y9e-0001Kt-30; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:52:34 -0700 Received: by wyb39 with SMTP id 39sf2390403wyb.16 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:52:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xaKj8MMYIzNjXQ+ASKhfgSbHODYV9QrNqPHk4vBe87M=; b=MgGPjm4WZ0xFNwJFZ6H+2S7s9DKdE52X+I5GlDpYxK/5oWi5HMNH+bXyiosvIYMTkr y3DAexKCKtkI7tjAvCVZn8GvGxaYIqixW+APrHQj/4yJCOM9eBbxP7fro8hC+9NixR8C pW4WDEHbC8xp00erKEGY028qk190bK06R/mUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=oEtRIEiVk1Nc234JbSVugg5xHKIqwX+0vlj2mBQUnEB0Wd3uF0VkixdJ7v31VDc2uS JHvcLAdtQy6dY+fgXM+kX0ITaPttvpPKq6kK4ufnsxmVfR97GP/GAHr1zZBc9GXTlKQK WeiY/95AK5hxRNNxPMImYCSB1aCvB6L0gBu1o= Received: by 10.216.23.16 with SMTP id u16mr36009weu.9.1287579135825; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:52:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.242.202 with SMTP id i52ls620243wer.0.p; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.36.21 with SMTP id v21mr120716wea.4.1287579133672; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.36.21 with SMTP id v21mr120715wea.4.1287579133637; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f179.google.com (mail-wy0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r4si57900wec.6.2010.10.20.05.52.12; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.179; Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so3916138wyb.38 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.7.90 with SMTP id c26mr4339371wbc.83.1287579132441; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.32.140 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 05:52:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9b94c358-2bfe-4bcd-8bcc-bf6dabf81e96@g4g2000prj.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 09:52:12 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Utterance-level parsing notes From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > sa is really that special? "sa" is the nastiest beast of the grammar, and we are not even sure what we want it to do exactly (none of the various alternatives that have been proposed is very satisfactory). So yes, I would say it is that special. > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:42 PM, symuyn wrote: >> >> I wrote some notes today while waiting for someone. >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1I6SgPk_X0tf2DvGR_D3klKi0O2KxMQ7W7IKYSpYb74g&hl=en >> >> I'm going to keep editing this whenever I feel like working on the >> hypothetical Lojban text editor. Do you have any corrections or >> comments? Yo have some typos there, mainly you have "tu" instead of "to" throughout. Also it's lo'u...le'u, not lo'u...li'u. No substantial comment for the moment, except I don't like the use of "utterance" for "the thing that goes between .i's". I find that confusing. I would prefer "sentence", even if there are incomplete or fragmentary sentences allowed as special cases. To me an utterance is either what someone utters (lo se bacru), which could consist of several sentences, or some act of uttering (lo nu bacru), but it's not really directly related to "thing between .i's". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.