From lojban+bncCKatz7nFHBChvP3lBBoEZaJdfg@googlegroups.com Wed Oct 20 14:25:04 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8g9d-0004rn-Bb; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:25:04 -0700 Received: by ywo7 with SMTP id 7sf2355086ywo.16 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:24:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ll44I9wLdKPPdI438S4qAUPj4kxWKOcGShz6sz5Qjb4=; b=xbk4YYmpxXiLfN9Vry847RRhqXN/yMsWgjPDmj0GAjqDEq9ReH4p18mdPzwOG5swY4 a+plKat/NbzBdrFWKogFy+pJNEaBZfwbsh7D+RBfGkae2QO9RK7+bkaMtqz9r/LS6ben u56ggiFW+Rn6S8zihI7kTh/tsTBnO/ku1ZN+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=4cCB3W5/qyo4Di/jf061Ho8JjFFoePmWeu1MC1reUe5mMGs2JzoV3bEOJzK59Xx4TY 3+wFX+yP2JfQOJZ/qyQ4aGx7d4LE1CeMDrEVyVwG9EjNln9j0I2cJSLrnSkJmH/jnZ91 TLxIf76i244j1HwniRbDU//oHBKj30Hiek9u4= Received: by 10.90.34.3 with SMTP id h3mr64749agh.48.1287609889110; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:24:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.62.36 with SMTP id k36ls194418aga.3.p; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.79.3 with SMTP id c3mr66865agb.19.1287609888397; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by g28g2000pra.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 128.196.240.100 References: <9b94c358-2bfe-4bcd-8bcc-bf6dabf81e96@g4g2000prj.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/7.0.517.41 Safari/534.7,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <6342aa96-8a2f-457d-aa8e-77c251a17fa7@g28g2000pra.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Utterance-level parsing notes From: symuyn To: lojban X-Original-Sender: rbysamppi@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Oct 20, 5:52=A0am, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan Jones wrot= e: > > sa is really that special? > > "sa" is the nastiest beast of the grammar, and we are not even sure > what we want it to do exactly (none of the various alternatives that > have been proposed is very satisfactory). So yes, I would say it is > that special. > > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 8:42 PM, symuyn wrote: > > >> I wrote some notes today while waiting for someone. > > >>https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=3D1I6SgPk_X0tf2DvGR_D3klKi0O2K= ... > > >> I'm going to keep editing this whenever I feel like working on the > >> hypothetical Lojban text editor. Do you have any corrections or > >> comments? > > Yo have some typos there, mainly you have "tu" instead of "to" throughout= . > Also it's lo'u...le'u, not lo'u...li'u. > > No substantial comment for the moment, except I don't like the use of > "utterance" for "the thing that goes between .i's". I find that > confusing. I would prefer "sentence", even if there are incomplete or > fragmentary sentences allowed as special cases. To me an utterance is > either what someone utters (lo se bacru), which could consist of > several sentences, or some act of uttering (lo nu bacru), but it's not > really directly related to "thing between .i's". > > mu'o mi'e xorxes Thanks for catching those typos. They've all been fixed. I also finished the preliminary grammar for the initial parsing of documents, but now the hard part--figuring out what to do when a significant word is edited in/out--begins. Just {i ja} took a while to get, and I'm not sure if it's always right. I'll eke out the plan for every significant word's insertion and deletion over the next few months. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.